Thomas Buck, Sr. Family


Bedford County, PA


Lionel Nebeker

With much appreciated help and encouragement from

Gordon Bates

The Bucks of Bedford Co., PA

Our story begins with the marriage of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott on 4 May 1738 in Glastonbury, Hartford Co., Connecticut [1].  {There are submissions in the LDS Ancestral File showing this Thomas Buck to have been born on 6 Sep. 1712 in Middletown, Middlesex Co., CT.  A child by that name was born there at that time but there is no way to connect him to our Thomas Buck, and it seems doubtful that we can, or should.  There were several different children by the same name in that general area and no good way to prove that any of them were “our Thomas Buck.”}  Elizabeth Scott was born on 30 July 1717 in Glastonbury, Hartford Co., CT [1].  Most families at that time commonly gave their children the same names as those given to their parents and siblings, and our Buck family did the same in succeeding generations.  So, the fact that the supposed parents of our Thomas Buck (another Thomas Buck and Sarah Judd) gave their children names that do not regularly reappear in our family casts serious doubt as to whether our Thomas was truly the son of this couple.  Still, it seems reasonable to believe that our Thomas Buck was probably born sometime around 1713-1718.  If these dates are correct, then Thomas would have been about age 20-25, and Elizabeth would have been about aged 21 at the time of their wedding and that certainly seems within a reasonable time frame.  There were Bucks in Connecticut and New Jersey, all of whom descended from a family group that first settled in Wethersfield, CT.  It is possible that our family also descended from these original immigrants but we have not yet made the connection necessary to prove it.  Additionally, there were other Buck families in New England who were totally unrelated to the Weathersfield group.  At this time we are not able to prove any of our Buck ancestry beyond our Thomas Buck, who we will assume was born about 1715.}

We have not found many documents relating to the births of the children of Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck, but assume that they had a good sized family where their children would have been born within the years of about 1740-1760 (throughout a span of about 20 years). 

The only document found so far relating specifically to the location of the birth of any of their children is for their son David, who was born in New Jersey [2], but the date is unknown—believed to be about 1752.  With this being the case, it seems reasonable to believe that most of their children were “probably” born in either Connecticut or New Jersey, but no proof has yet been found for such.  Additional research in these states will be the subject of future research.

In the table below, we will present two listings for the children of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott.  There are some discrepancies between the two lists.  The one on the left includes all those persons, for whom we were able to find specific references from original source documents in Bedford County, PA, or the surrounding area.  These we feel certain are truly children of this couple.  We have also attached years of birth for each of them.  In some cases these years are firm, but others are estimated with the indication “about” preceding the year.  In the second column is another listing of the children who have been assigned to this couple as submitted to the LDS Ancestral File and/or International Genealogical Index (IGI).  This record contains the names of additional children not listed in the first column, and is missing two of the sons who are listed in the first column.  But even more concerning is the assignment of estimated birth years for these children.  There are numerous entries in the Ancestral File for this family however, it is very apparent that little original research has been done on them.  Instead, many people have merely copied what was previously provided and then resubmitted the same all over again without checking its accuracy. 

We feel that the “names” of those individuals (in the right column) are correct, as they were actually provided by Elizabeth Buck Garlick, a grand daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck (and these are therefore her own aunts and uncles).  However, she did not provide the years of their birth, and those (shown below) were provided many years following her death and were a product of speculation.  Nor did she list a “Sarah” as an aunt, but this name was added later to this list.  How those dates were provided will be discussed in greater depth in appendices A – F toward the end of this document.

We have not been able to find original source documents for all the names of those children of Thomas and Elizabeth (listed in the right column) but we have found in Bedford Co., PA, specific documents relating to each of those listed in the left hand column.  These documents however, attest to the existence of these people in that area but do not necessarily confirm that they were “children of Thomas and Elizabeth Buck”.  In fact, we will not add John Sr., or Joseph Buck to this family since we can only prove of their existence in Bedford County, PA at that time, but cannot prove any connection to this family.

We suspected this family may have had other children, including daughters whose names did not show up in any record (other than the Temple ordinance records).  Additionally, we found no record whatsoever for an “Ichabod” (sometimes spelled “Jehabod”) as was found in the Ancestral File.  That doesn’t mean that this man did not exist.  There could be many reasons why his name did not show up in any local documents at that time.  He could have been too young to have had a taxable property of his own while residing there and then moved away as he reached maturity; he could have had some physical or mental limitations that did not allow him to live independently and was therefore always a member of one of the other Buck households; or he may have died as a young man before acquiring property.  We just don’t know much about him other than he was listed as a son of Thomas and Elizabeth Buck in the Endowment House Transcripts for this family [3].

The gaps between the estimated years of birth shown above (in the left column) surely contained some daughters (and probably those listed in the right column) or perhaps other sons who didn’t survive to adulthood.  Most of these, with the exception of David Buck, lack confirmation at this point, but we will see that these individuals were all living in very close proximity and interacting with each other in Bedford County, PA, and were certainly closely related.  Their ages seem to fit within the range we would expect.  We will present the basic documents found, and we believe that this will be convincing evidence that these persons were, in deed, the children of Thomas and Elizabeth Buck.

As one reviews the birth dates for the list (from the Ancestral File, in the right column) it shows most of these children being born after 1760 with David being the oldest.  It doesn’t seem likely, with a marriage date of 1738, that their oldest child would not have been born for another 22 years.  Also, some Ancestral File submissions show Elizabeth’s birth date to be about 1742, which would also be incorrect with her marriage date occurring four years earlier than her birth.  Clearly there are many errors in the Ancestral File, and we will not be able to deal with each one individually.  However, at the conclusion of this chapter, there are a series of appendices which will deal more thoroughly with these discrepancies from other submitters of the family information.

Prior to the "French and Indian War" there were almost no white settlers west of York Co. PA.  The pacific leaders of Pennsylvanians did not want to fight the natives and forbid their white settlers from taking up any lands that had not yet been purchased from the Indians.  The first white occupant of the area was a Scotsman by the name of “Ray” (a corruption of MacRae) who settled on what is now known as Raystown Branch of the Juniata River in about 1750.  In a few years, he was joined by a handful of pioneers and the area generally became known as “Raystown”. 

In 1758, the British military found Raystown an ideal location for building their “Fort Bedford” as a mid-point along a new road they were constructing to attack Fort Duquesne (Pittsburgh) which was then under French control.  As a result, a few hearty white settlers, after the hostilities cooled somewhat, began moving west along this military road and carving out farms near the old fort.  In 1768 there were still very few whites here, but a list was made of those who had begun taking up lands in this area.  This was not really a "tax list" as all of these were considered "illegal" settlers since Pennsylvania had not yet purchased this land from the Indians.  The authorities told the settlers to remove from this land, but they did not do so.  Instead, after it was made into a county, these early settlers were allowed to lay claims to their property by paying back-taxes for their acreage.  In 1768 the list of illegal occupants did not include any Bucks (but, there was a John Piper and James Piper in Colerain who show up as neighbor and friends of our Bucks later on). 

Just three years later, in 1771, Bedford was separated from Cumberland and incorporated as a county of Pennsylvania.  At that time, it included virtually all of the SW quarter of the entire state, but still with very few residents.  The town of Bedford (where the fort had been located) became the county seat.  By this time the land had been purchased from the Indians and white settlers were beginning to legally settle the area. 

In the tax lists of 1772 & 73, we find the two Pipers (John and James) still in Colerain twp.  There was also a Nicholas Buck in Springhill, Bedford Co., PA.  We are not aware of any connection of this man to our Thomas Buck, but he is the first "Buck" to appear in this county. This is also the last appearance for him so he did not remain here long.


We have not found a tax list for 1774.  However, in 1775 a Thomas Buck was already a resident of Colerain Township in Bedford Co., PA [4].  He was the only Buck listed in the entire county, but he would have had children in his household, and even older grown children who did not yet own sufficient property to be charged a tax.  This would indicate that our family first moved into Bedford County sometime between 1773-75. 

{We cannot prove that this “Thomas Buck”, the original settler, was our direct ancestor, the husband of Elizabeth Scott, but we believe that it was.  (It is possible that it was his son, Thomas Buck, the man we will normally refer to as “Captain Thomas Buck” just to differentiate between the two men.)  It seems that the Buck clan that left their homes and civilization and migrated out into this wilderness area would have been more likely to do so, following their parents, than just to follow a brother.  In reality, for the purpose of our temple work, it is not critical as to which of these it was, but for our story, we will assume it was the parents, our direct ancestors, Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck.  If so, then Thomas (born about 1715) would have been about 60 years old and Elizabeth about 58.  Their children could have ranged in age anywhere from about 10 to 35, but all would have been born prior to their move to Bedford County, PA, and most likely somewhere back in New Jersey.}

The townships in central Bedford County are defined by the valleys in which they are located.  This part of Pennsylvania consists of a series of ridges running NNE to SSW.  Small farms were cut out of the forests that lined the creeks draining the successive valleys.  These creeks, in turn, run down to merge into the Juniata River which flows eastward toward the Susquehanna River.  Colerain was one of the first areas settled in Bedford (1767).  Hopewell came into existence in 1773, still before our Bucks arrived.  Providence twp, which will soon be discussed, was created in the eastern side of the County in 1780 (and subsequently split into East and West Providence in 1844).  A prominent creek in that valley is called Brush Creek.   

Children of Thomas Buck and

Elizabeth Scott, based solely upon original source documents found in Bedford Co.,

Children of Thomas Buck and

Elizabeth Scott, based solely upon records found in the LDS Ancestral File and IGI

David              born about 1760-65

Thomas          born about 1763

Ichabod           born about 1767

Sarah              born about 1769

Massa             born about 1770

Elizabeth         born about 1772

Jonathan         born about 1774

Thomas (“Captain”) born 1740-41

John Sr.                   born about 1742 ?

Joseph                     born about 1749 ?

David                       born about 1752

Jonathan                  born 12 Jan. 1755

In April of 1775, not long after the arrival of the Buck family, the already tense situation around Boston broke out into an open battle between British and American troops at Lexington and Concord, MA.  As soon as word arrived in Bedford County the spirit of patriotism stirred the hearts of many young men and a contingent of minutemen from this area marched off to support their comrades in the east.  We do not know which of Thomas’s sons may have gone off to fight at that early date.  Many of his sons would have been in their twenties and early thirties at this time. 

Most enlistments, especially in the early part of the war, were for two or three-month tours of duty.  We know though, that the oldest son, another “Thomas” (an older brother of our David Buck) joined up immediately.  In fact, he was elected Captain of his Company within the 1st PA Battalion from Bedford Co., PA.  To receive an officer’s commission, a recruit was required to sign up for a three-year period, and Thomas did this for the years 1777-1780.  Thereafter, this man was often referred to as “Captain Thomas Buck” and we will use this same appellation to separate him from his father, and other Thomas Bucks.  It appears that most of the fighting of this frontier battalion was primarily directed against the Indian allies of the British who attacked and killed many of the outlying settlers in Western Pennsylvania. 

In 1776, we find a Thomas Buck (presumably our ancestors—Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck) and Jonathan Buck (their son) listed in Colerain Twp as tax payers [5].  This Jonathan [6] at this time was just 21 years old [7] but sufficiently old to have procured enough property, near his parents, to owe a tax.  Jonathan was also a newly married man.   Just one year prior, he married Zerviah Covalt from Sussex Co., NJ.  Whether he married her there and then hurried over to catch up with his parents, or whether he married her in Bedford Co, is not known.  Her father and brothers also came to Bedford Co. at about this time.  This however, may provide us with a clue as to where our Bucks lived prior to moving to Bedford Co.  It seems likely that Jonathan would not have married a perfect stranger, but instead, had probably known Zeriah Covalt for many years in New Jersey.  Our Bucks had lived in New Jersey before coming to Bedford Co., PA.  Is it possible that they came here from Sussex Co., NJ.? 

We have not yet found any tax list for Bedford County for the years 1777 or 1778.  During this time, the Revolutionary War was shifting from Boston, to New York and then toward Philadelphia, which at this time was not only the largest city in the colonies, but was also serving as the Capitol, or at least the residence of the Continental Congress.  As such, it was a natural target for the British military efforts.  The thirteen colonies were still very independent from one another and much of the load for defending each one fell on the shoulders of their own local militias.  With the war coming into Pennsylvania, the soldiers turned out in greater numbers, including a large recruitment from Bedford Co.   

Also at about this time, Pennsylvania created its own navy, which consisted of only a very few small gun boats, or war ships.  Enlisting in this “navy” would have been akin to volunteering for a suicide mission as this small fleet would be very weak when compared to the enormity of the British Armada, but there was a need to buy time for the evacuation of the city, should the English attack via the Delaware River.  Their only hope was to stall the British for a time and these were brave men who joined the navy.

Philadelphia, of course, is just across the river from New Jersey.  It could be that some of Thomas and Elizabeth’s grown sons had not yet moved, with the earliest members of the family, to Bedford County.  With the on-set of the war, some may have stayed behind to serve in that action.  There is a record of a Joseph Buck joining the Pennsylvania Navy on May 1, 1776 and serving for nine months aboard the “Franklin” under the command of Capt. Nathan Boys, until Feb. 1, 1777 [8].  Then, after a month’s rest, he reenlisted again on the same ship on Mar. 1, 1777 for another 3 years, 9 months and 18 days.  He was discharged on Nov. 1, 1779 with the note that he was “age 30” at that time [9].  This would indicate that he was born in about 1749.  We do not know if he was the same Joseph Buck who appeared in Bedford County in about 1780, but it is a possibility, and if so, he may be another son of our Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck. 

As the war heated up through that summer, more fighting units were formed for the colonies’ defense.  Thomas Buck (the oldest son of our Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck) mustered in as a Captain in the Pennsylvania Militia on Dec. 10, 1777 in the First Battalion, First Company of the PA Militia from Bedford County [10].  At that time most “captains” were given their rank in one of two basic ways: They were either elected by the other recruits as a sign of their popularity among the men who were willing to follow them into battle; or they received it from the State as a reward for raising a given number of men to fill the muster rolls.  Either way it is a sign that Captain Thomas Buck was well respected within Bedford County. 

It is not known where this company served other than most pension records of men from this area indicate that they served primarily fighting Indians on the frontier.  It was at about this time that General Washington had moved his army to a spot outside Philadelphia to settle in for a long winter at a site known as Valley Forge, PA.  There is no record indicating that our Captain Thomas Buck was encamped there, but he would have spent that terrible winter someplace in Pennsylvania.  Thousands of soldiers died due primarily to disease, starvation and exposure to the cold.  Thousands more deserted in an effort to survive.  The fact that Thomas subsequently received payment for his duties is a sure indication that he not only survived but was not a deserter. 

{Note, there is a reference in the muster rolls of Valley Forge to a “Private Thomas Buck” in the 3rd PA Brigade serving under Capt. Thomas Moore.  It does not indicate where this man came from, other than someplace in Pennsylvania.  It seems apparent that this man was a different Thomas Buck than the one we are following from Bedford County.  The enlistment papers for the 1st Battalion, 1st Company of the PA Militia, make it clear that our Thomas Buck was a “captain” at least by 10 Dec. 1777, and clearly states that he was from Colerain Twp, in Bedford Co., PA. [10]}

Even though Captain Thomas Buck was away fighting for his country, that country still needed to raise taxes and that was primarily done based upon the value of one’s holdings.  The next tax list for Bedford County that we have been able to find is for the year 1779.  At that time Thomas Buck (Capt.) and his family had the opportunity to pay taxes for the land they owned in Hopewell Twp in Bedford Co [11].  There is no indication as to when he purchased the 200 acres he owned there but it was sometime prior to that year. 

In the meanwhile, back in Bedford County, some of the sons of Thomas and Elizabeth, after helping their parents to clear their farm land, were now spreading out and establishing farms of their own.  We suspect that Captain Thomas Buck (born in 1740, the son of our Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck) already had a growing family when the Bucks first arrived in the area.  He would have wanted his own farm.  The land records are not complete for purchases during the period prior to 1784, and the tax records are missing for some of those early years, but this younger Thomas purchased land a few miles to the northeast of his parents, in Hopewell Township near the confluence of Yellow Creek with the Raystown Branch of the Juniata River, sometime around 1778-79.  Here he owned land for the remainder of his life. 

In that 1779 tax list, there is another interesting observation for the old family farm back in Colerain Twp.  First of all, there is no longer any “Thomas Buck” shown as living there.  While it is possible that the Thomas Buck who formerly resided there is the same as the one who moved to Hopewell Twp, it seems more likely that the original old Thomas Buck (the husband of Elizabeth Scott and father to the group of young Buck men residing in Bedford County) had probably died in the interval between the 1776 tax list and the 1779 tax list.  Admittedly, this is a supposition but it also fits in with the general records and assumptions made.  If so, he would have been about 65-67 years old at the time of his death and that is a pretty good age for dying.  No will has been found for this time frame for Thomas or Elizabeth (Scott) Buck.

Let’s further assume that Grandpa Thomas and Grandma Elizabeth Scott Buck had originally claimed about 150 acres.  It would be a lot of work to clear this land and, by 1779, as his family was spreading out taking up lands of their own, and as he was getting older, he may well have sold some of his land to his sons.  His son Jonathan (who married a wife in 1775) needed a place of his own to support his new bride.  The amount of land is not important, but for the sake of following our story, let’s suppose that Thomas sold 100 acres to Jonathan, retaining only 50 good cleared acres for himself to work in his older years.  This would explain why Jonathan was then shown in the 1776 tax list along with Thomas.  No other Bucks were shown at that time, and some of the sons may have been away at the war or may not have owned sufficient land yet.  

Now, a lot could have happened to this family in the interim but by 1779, Jonathan is not listed as owning any property there.  He must have sold it, and perhaps to his older brother John, who may have just arrived here to join the rest of his father’s family.  John (who was probably born about 1742) by this time had a family that was almost grown.  He received, or purchased, 100 acres to support his growing family.  He appears to be living next to David, who now shows up for the first time and is the owner of 50 acres—probably some of his father’s original farm.  David, (born about 1752) by this time would have been 27 years old and did not yet have a family of his own, but he may have been caring for his widowed mother and any younger siblings on his 50 acres [11].

Regardless of some of the assumptions we have made, we do know that a Thomas Buck came into Colerain Twp of Bedford County, PA in about 1774.  He and Jonathan Buck were landowners there in 1776.  There was no Thomas Buck in Colerain by 1779, but there was a John and a David Buck in Colerain then, and a Thomas Buck who owned property not too far away in Hopewell Twp—and we are certain that this last Thomas was the “Capt. Thomas Buck” (b. about 1740). 

The 1780 PA tax list does not add any new information but does reconfirm the same data we had from the prior year, showing no new Bucks.  David and John still owned land in Colerain and Thomas in Hopewell Twp [12]. 

It seems strange that Jonathan Buck had disappeared from the tax lists at this time.  However, there may be a good explanation for that.  The new lands that soon became known as “Providence” Township had not yet been recorded and therefore no taxes assessed.  Jonathan apparently pushed his way into the Brush Creek wilderness at about this time to carve a new farm out of the underbrush.  When this township was formed, Jonathan Buck was then listed as one of the original owners of land indicating that he had already been there before the records were begun [Bedford Co., PA Archives Vol. V, p.5.  (Note that this list also includes the name of Levi Jones and Benjamin Ferguson—names that will be tied to our Buck family later on.)]

Although our Founding Fathers had declared our independence from England, we had not yet formed a new government or nation—we were merely a confederation of thirteen separate colonies that were coming together for the first time to fight a common enemy.  Congress was meeting in Philadelphia to discuss the affairs but had no ability to tax the residents from the various states.  Therefore, many of the soldiers lacked the basic needs of food and clothing, not to mention financial payment for their services.  The best the new congress could do was to take names, and terms of service, and then provide these men with vouchers, or certificates (which were basically IOUs) indicating that they acknowledged their service and, if the United States won the war and subsequently ever had any money, they would try to pay these soldiers for their service. 


Sometime in early 1781, at least two Bucks enlisted in the PA Militia. These included David and Jonathan.  The dates of their enlistment are uncertain but on 12 July 1781 both of them received certificates for their service which said they were worthy of pay if the militia had any money to give [13, 14, 15, 16].  This would indicate that both of these men had already served for a period of time (probably for three months) prior to this date.  By 1781 the army was requesting enlistments of one year.  They didn’t always get it but those terms were more common by then. 

From their military papers it is obvious that both David and Jonathan served together as privates in the same Company in the PA Militia (under Captain George Enslo, from Bedford Co.).  There is also a record of a Joseph Buck (perhaps the same one who was discharged from the Navy in 1779, who enlisted as a “new levy” on 10 Aug. 1780, but there is no indication of the residence of this man so we cannot tell if he was one of the Bedford County Bucks.  We do know though, that a Joseph Buck from Bedford Co. received a certificate for his military service on 8 Sep. 1785, for a one year period of service between 1 Apr. 1784 to 30 Mar. 1785 [17].  This was for the same exact dates of service as Jonathan [16] and Thomas Buck [18], both from Bedford Co., PA, who had re-enlisted to serve again in the PA Militia.  The commonality of the dates of their service and being from the same locality indicates a high likelihood that these men were all brothers who signed up to serve together [14]. 

There is no indication that our David Buck ever returned to active duty in the war after his stint that ended in 1781.  However, we have seen that three of his brothers, Thomas (Capt), Jonathan and Joseph all served again from 1784-85, as discussed above, but by then the war had wound down and victory was assured.  Other than the military records cited, we have not been able to find any other records documenting what any of these young men may have done in the early years of that decade. 

The next tax list is for 1784 [19] and it contains some interesting information.  By this date all Buck lands in Colerain Twp had been sold and all of the sons of Thomas and Elizabeth Buck had spread out in different directions.  As before, whether they were at home or away at war, they still had the privilege of paying their taxes.  Captain Thomas was shown as owning land in Hopewell Twp (as he had since at least 1779) to the NE of Colerain.  John and Joseph Buck both owned land near each other in Cumberland Valley Twp, a little to the SW of Colerain, just south of the town of Bedford, and near the Maryland State line.  Jonathan and David, who had fought together in the militia in 1780-81, were now both living next to each other in Providence Township, in the next valley just east of Colerain Twp.

It doesn’t appear that Joseph had married yet.  He was listed as being the only resident of his home and owning 300 acres.  John lived close by with just his house and “4 whites” residing there.  We know he had a family and that would account for the census count.  Thomas had 1 house and “4 whites”.  Jonathan had “5 whites”.  David’s record is interesting in that he was listed separately in a list of “single freemen” indicating that he was not yet married but had “4 whites” in his household.  It doesn’t say that he owned the house, just that there were four residents living there.  If he wasn’t yet married, then who were these people?  It could be that one of them may have been his widowed mother, Elizabeth Scott Buck, and the others may have been younger, unmarried siblings.  We believe that he had a brother, Ichabod, whose age we do not know.  He may have had a single sister living with him too, but again, this is just speculation. 

The following year, 1785, brought a number of changes to some of the family members.  John and Joseph, who had been living in Cumberland Valley just the year before, had both sold out and moved further west to Quemahoning Twp (which at that time was still a part of Bedford Co., but in 1795 the western portion of this county was split off to form Somerset County and Quemahoning Twp became a part of that new county.)  In addition to these two brothers, we also find a John Buck, Jr. and William Buck [20].  We assume the first, and probably both, of these men were sons of John Buck Sr.  If they were old enough to own land in 1785, then they were probably born around 1762-65; and their father, John Sr. would have been born by about 1742.  (Note: This is the method we used to estimate the approximate birth date of John Buck, Sr. the assumed son of our Thomas and Elizabeth.  It may not be accurate but would be fairly close if that John’s sons were old enough to own land as shown above.) 

Thomas (Capt) still owned three hundred acres in Hopewell Twp.  Jonathan was still shown in Providence Twp on 200 acres.  His land was located on the south side of the Raystown Branch of the Juniata River and on both sides of Brush Creek at its confluence as it flows into the larger river.  But our David, who had previously owned land on Brush Creek near Jonathan, is noticeably absent. 

As we have shown above, we believe that David was born about 1752 [35] and would have been a young man of about 22 when his parents moved to Bedford Co. around 1774.  He was old enough to own land in this county (50 acres) in 1779 [on that year's tax list] and would have been only about 27 years of age at that time.  He continued to own land up until 1784 (although he moved from Colerain to Providence Twp shortly after his brother Jonathan Buck moved there, sometime between 1780-84).  By 1785, the war was over and perhaps David, who by now would have been about 33 years old, may have wandered off to seek a good wife elsewhere. 


By 1785 the State began keeping better records of who owned land.  We find a number of our Bucks listed in the early records as occupants of good tracts [21].  Again, in this record, our David is missing. 

Then, on 28 Feb. 1787, an extremely important event occurred that again ties virtually all of these Buck men together in one single incident.  Jonathan Buck, (the man who had lived so close by our David Buck in Colerain Twp and then served together with him in the militia in 1780-81, and then lived next to him again for several years on Brush Creek in Providence Twp) suddenly sold his 200 acres at the mouth of Brush Creek to “Thomas Buck” [22] believed to be his older brother who already owned several other parcels of land across the Raystown Branch of the Juniata River in Hopewell Twp.  And, after selling out in this township, Jonathan moved west to take up new lands in the very near vicinity to: Joseph Buck, John Buck Sr, John Buck Jr, and William Buck.  Here he remained until shortly after 1790, when each of the last four men listed above, all departed Pennsylvania at about the same time as Jonathan.  This shows the closeness of Jonathan to each of these men—his brothers.

Captain Thomas Buck was a well respected member of his community and involved in public affairs, as is evident from the note that on “June 1, 1789, David Espy administers the oath of office to Thomas Buck, Esq., one of (the) Justices of the Peace, who was appointed by commission from the Council, May 20, 1789.  [Source: Quarter Session – Court Records for Bedford Co.]

From 1781 through 1790 both Jonathan and Joseph Buck had been listed in almost every tax, military or land record in Bedford Co.  Suddenly, after 1790, both of these men disappeared from the local records.  There is some mention for each of them in the very early history of Somerset Co., which is located immediately to the west of Bedford, and which was formed by breaking it off of that parent county in 1795.  However, those references were very brief indicating that Joseph may have opened the first store in one of the communities, but then both men disappeared soon thereafter. 

By about 1790 the US Government had begun paying some of the Revolutionary soldiers by giving them land grants to the west of the Appalachian Mountains, in Tennessee, Kentucky, and Ohio.  It appears from the records of Jonathan Buck, that he received a grant in White Co. (now Putnam Co.) Tennessee and moved there by 1793.

Did some of his brothers also receive lands for their military service?  They were not found in Tennessee.  In the 1790 Ohio census (tax list) there is a listing for only two “Buck” men in the entire territory and their names were: John Buck and Joseph Buck. These are the very same names as the two missing Buck brothers who departed Bedford Co., PA at about that time.  Even though these men were listed in the 1790 PA census, if that count was made in early summer (say about June) just as these men were preparing to leave, they might have yet been counted again in Ohio later that same summer (say about August).  We do not know if these are the same two brothers we have been following but their location in Washington Co., OH was just barely across the Ohio River from what is now West Virginia and not very far from Bedford Co., PA.

In the military papers of the Revolutionary War veterans [Sons of the American Revolutionary War veteran’s papers] there is a record of the death of a Joseph Buck “in Ohio” in 1803 but there is no way of knowing if this is for the brother of our David Buck. 

Also between 1779-90 there were references to John Buck, John Buck, Jr., and William Buck, but again, after 1790 we find no more evidence of any of these men in Bedford Co. PA and do not know where they went, other than the hint that they may have gone to Ohio seems plausible.

Some time prior to 1795 a Thomas Buck in Hopewell Twp of Bedford Co. appears to have married a woman by the name of Margaret, who was the widow of a Mr. Richard Long.  They were neighbors in Hopewell Twp and knew each other for some time.  Thomas’ first wife (the mother of his children, whose name is unknown) had passed away before this date.  {We have searched the 1780 tax list and the 1790 PA census and have not been able to find any listing for a Richard Long in the entire state of PA.  There were a few “Long” listings but nothing that can be tied to this man to help us establish his approximate age.  If he was quite young, then the marriage of his widow to “Thomas Buck” could possibly be as a wife of Thomas Buck, Jr. (son of the Captain, who would have been roughly about 25 years old in 1790) but if she was an older woman, then it would seem more likely that she may have married Captain Thomas Buck, the father.  This needs more research, but it appears from later census records that she was probably older than Thomas Jr. and so we believe she was a second wife for Captain Thomas Buck.  She lived in Hopewell Twp so whichever Thomas Buck it was he was certainly a part of our Buck family.} 

Evidently, this Richard Long had more debts than assets.  Following his death (and we do not have a specific date for that) his widow, Mrs. Margaret Long (also shown in one record as “Mary Long” – but was probably misread from an entry for “Marg. Long”) had sufficient time to be courted and then married by one of the two Thomas Bucks in that area.  Her first husband’s creditors applied to her for payment and it appears that she and her new husband tried to accommodate their demands but eventually gave up.  It is not clear how long that process took but in time they applied to the court to give up Richard Long’s property and distribute it among his creditors as far as it would go in order to alleviate the pressures of his debts. 

       Thomas Buck and Margaret Buck, late Margaret Long, widow and relict of

       Richard Long deceased, which Thomas and Margaret are administrators,

       reported expenditures of 50 pounds, 18, 1;  this exceeding the amount of

       the estate.

       [Source: Orphan's Court Records, Bedford Co., PA., 21 Sept. 1795.]

Compare this map, showing the various townships of the modern Bedford Co., to the map on the next page (created in 1775) which shows the valley and mountain terrain in this same area.  Note that the Colerain Twp is just barely to the east and then south of the town of Bedford and located between the Evits and Great Warrior Mountain ranges around “Friends Cove”.   Thomas Buck first settled in this valley in Colerain Twp.  David Buck settled in West Providence Twp, which is located along Brush Creek, in the next valley just to the east of Colerain Twp, where Brush Creek flows north into the Raystown Branch of the Juniata River.  Hopewell Twp is located in that same valley, but further north where the Raystown Branch flows toward its junction with Yellow Creek.  Captain Thomas Buck owned land along Yellow Creek in Hopewell Twp.  All of these locations are very close in proximity to one another.

There is a general lack of many of the public records from 1785-1790.  What happened to David Buck during that period?  It appears that he went someplace else to find a wife other than in Bedford Co.  It appears likely that he found his new bride, Catherine Cashman, in Adams Co., PA, and they probably married there about 1787-88.  They returned to Bedford County before the first US census was taken in 1790.  By then he was married, and had a young family living with him in his household [23].

David’s new wife, Catherine Cashman, had previously married Adam Bumgardner (in 1779.)  By him Catherine had four children: John, Jacob, Barbara and Elizabeth [36, 37.  Also see Appendix C – the “One Family Group Record of David Buck and Catherine Cashman, which says that she had another husband who was “prob. John Bumgardner”, indicating that there was still some uncertainty about the first name of Catherine’s first husband.  We have found a record of their marriage, which only mentions his name as Adam Bumgardner, so we are uncertain whether “John” is incorrect, or whether he might have had that name too.  Note too that her Bumgardner family would have come first, since Catherine was still happily married to David Buck when he made out his will in 1816, and at that time she would have been about 64 years old and passed her childbearing years.  For more information on this family refer to the documentation for the Kirschman/Cashman family by this author.] 

The ages of Catherine’s children by her first marriage are not known except that they were born during the time frame of 1780-1786.  Presumably Mr. Bumgardner (variously spelled) died before 1786, leaving Catherine a young widow prior to the time she met and married our David Buck (about 1787-88).  David then brought his new family back home to Brush Creek, in Providence Twp in about 1788 and his first son, Thomas Buck, was born there in 1789-90.

In the 1790 PA census we find our David Buck back at his home in Bedford Co., where there were two men over the age of 16 in his household.  This would be David and his oldest step-son, John Bumgardner Jr.  There were three females in the household — Catherine Cashman Buck and her two daughters, Barbara and Elizabeth Bumgardner.  In addition, there were two young boys under the age of 16 — Jacob Bumgardner and the new little baby, Thomas Buck. 

{Note:  The Ancestral File entry shows an estimated birth year for Catherine Cashman of 1767, but this can not be correct as it would not have allowed her any time for her first family.  She was born in Holland, as her family was underway in their migration from Germany to America in 1852.  Her birth would have occurred in Amsterdam, in about June of that year, while waiting for a ship.  This date would allow her enough time to marry Mr. Adam Bumgardner (in 1769, at about age 17) and have her first child, John Jr. by about 1772, followed by three more children and the death of her first husband by 1785.  It is likely that she met and married David Buck about 1787-88 and then moved with him back to Bedford Co., where her first Buck baby was born in 1789-90.

The Ancestral File also contains a Family Group Record for David Buck and Catherine Cashman’s family that shows the following children:

        Thomas Buck           b. abt 1789

        Richard Buck              b. abt 1791

        Susannah Buck          b. abt 1793

        Elizabeth Buck           b. 2 May 1795 at Providence twp; Bedford Co., PA

        David Buck                 b. abt 1800

        Mary Buck                  b. 10 Oct. 1800

In the Appendix A at the end of this chapter we will discuss where this information came from, and who speculated that there was a “Richard Buck” in this family.  Someone, over a century after the dates shown above, made rough estimates based upon the ordinance work performed by Elizabeth Buck in the Endowment House and also upon her father’s will.  But those records did not contain the birth dates for these individuals, and had to be estimated.  Along with the errors in the birth dates, other errors were made in these later submissions, like including “Richard” in this family group.  The estimated birth of Susannah is incorrect.  Referring to the 1816 will of the father, David Buck [30], we find the following wording:

“…I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Catherine Buck… 

I do also give and bequeath unto my eldest son Thomas Buck

I do also give and bequeath to my youngest son David Buck

I also give and bequeath to my daughter Elizabeth Buck

I also give and bequeath to my next daughter Susannah Buck

I also give and bequeath to my youngest daughter Mary Buck”

{Children were listed in this order.  Underlining was added for emphasis.}

The 1790 census doesn’t give the townships of these folks, but from the page numbers (David was listed on p. 20) one can easily see that Jonathan had sold his lands in Providence Twp and moved out west to a spot quite close to his other brothers, who were presumably still living in Quemahoning Twp.  He is listed on p. 24 and the others on p. 25—John and Joseph, along with William, and now a Samuel “Ruck”.  (It is very possible that this last name resulted from a misreading of the name “Buck”.  But, we do not know who this Samuel was—if he was even a Buck at all.) 

In 1794 Pennsylvania, and indeed the entire new country, was rocked by an uprising that threatened to break apart the new nation.  The cause was a tax that was levied on the sale of whiskey.  Many of the grain farmers of western Pennsylvania turned their produce into whiskey in order to preserve it until it arrived safely at the market, and also to fetch a higher price.  Those farmers, who were located along the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers to the west, found that they could float their product down river to New Orleans cheaper and easier than freighting it overland to the eastern seaboard.  As such, they were letting it slip out the backdoor of the nation and avoiding the tax.  Alexander Hamilton, as Secretary of the Treasury, had struggled with finding ways to raise a tax that would help to pay the expenses of the nation and the leaders were infuriated by the avoidance of the tax by these Pennsylvanians.  The so-called “Whiskey Rebellion” of 1794 is the only point in our nation’s history when a sitting President actually took to the field to lead our troops into a potential battle zone.  George Washington brought his army west and made his headquarters in Bedford to stage his soldiers for a march on the farmers whose center of activity was in, and around, Washington Co. in the very SW corner of the State.  When the farmers saw how serious Washington was, they all decided to capitulate and came in to sign an oath of allegiance and to pay their taxes.  No Buck names appear in the list of participants in the rebellion.

A very important event transpired in 1795.  To the happy couple of David and Catherine Cashman Buck, a baby daughter was born on May 2nd, whom they named Elizabeth, in honor of her paternal grandmother, Elizabeth Scott Buck [24].  We doubt that the grandmother lived long enough to meet her namesake. 

In 1797 there were several land transactions recorded in Bedford Co. with a “Richard Buck” as a witness to the deals.  We have found none in which Richard bought or sold any land of his own, but he served as a witness for several others at that time.  We have found no other reference to this man, other than in the 1821 will of Captain Thomas Buck, who says that he had a son, Richard, who was deceased by then, but who, in turn, had a son of his own, “Richard P. Buck” and who left him military gear, along with other personal items belonging to his father (see the actual wording of the will) [31].  It is apparent that Richard lived after the Revolutionary War (to sign land documents in 1797) but had died before 1821 and had served in the military.  If he was born sometime around 1775 or so, then he may have married in the early 1800s and had at least one son, and heir (Richard P. Buck).  He would have been about 37 years old at the outbreak of the War of 1812 and may have perished in that war, but we do not have any real documentation for this man other than that cited above. 

By the 1800 US census for Pennsylvania, there are only two Buck families listed in Bedford Co: David and Thomas (Capt.) [25].  Some of the next generation were now about grown but they must have been living with their parents as none are yet listed independently.  David was listed as being over 45 years old (he was probably about 48 at this time).  His wife, Catherine, was listed as being between 26-45, and she was probably about his same age.  They are shown as having three young daughters under the age of 10.  Our Elizabeth was the oldest known daughter, or at least of those who survived childhood, and would have been about five years old in this census.  She had two known sisters, both younger than her.  The older, Susannah, was born about 1797-98 and the younger, Mary, was born on 10 Oct. 1800.  Usually the census was completed during the warmer summer months.  One wonders if Mary (born in Oct) would have been counted in that census, or did they have another daughter who did not survive to maturity?  This is an unanswerable question for us, as our Elizabeth made no mention of having any other sisters, other than those who survived to adulthood.  Missing from this census is any hint of the Bumgardner children, but having been born sometime prior to 1785, it is likely that each of the two girls was grown and married by this time.

Additionally in this census, the family had 1 boy over the age of 10 (which would be young Thomas, born 1789-90) and then two young boys under the age of 10.  We only know of one other boy in this family other than this Thomas, and that was David, Jr. (born about 1800, and very likely a twin of Mary’s) [26].  Who then are these young boys?  It seems highly probable that David and Catherine had at least one or two more little boys, and maybe one more daughter, who were alive in 1800 but did not survive to 1816 (the year in which David made his will).  Another possibility is that the oldest of the boys in this census, may have been Jacob Bumgardner and that their son, Thomas (age 11) was listed as being “under 10”.  We do not have a good answer for this item.

The household of Captain Thomas Buck, in 1800, contained one male over the age of 45 (which would have been Thomas—age about 60) and 1 female over age 45 (his wife, probably his second wife Margaret, the widow of Richard Long; and we assume she married the Captain Thomas Buck, the father, based upon her age in this census matching the older man’s and being older than his younger son—Thomas Jr.) and 1 male age 26-45 (perhaps his son, Thomas Jr.—who would have been about 35 years old and apparently living at home, but he does not yet seem to have a wife listed here).  So this record appears to be correct, according to our knowledge of this family.  

Captain Thomas’ other son, David, the older of the two was not living at home and neither was he listed anywhere in Bedford County.  We do not know where he went, and from the 1821 will of Captain Thomas Buck, it sounds as if he did not know either where this son was living.  The will does point out that Captain Thomas knew that his son, David, had a son in turn, who was given the name of “Thomas” (referred to as “Thomas the younger”) before he moved away and what became of this family is unknown to us at this time.  They may have moved to Ohio, as so many people were doing at that time, and Captain Thomas gave them (in his will) all of the land that he owned in Ohio, if they were still living.

The next document we have for our Bucks in Bedford County is another tax list in 1808.  This one shows two Thomas Bucks, one in Hopewell Twp (the Capt) and one in Providence Twp.  This latter one would certainly be the oldest son of our David Buck, now about 19 years old.  He paid tax because he owned one horse and had an additional $20 besides.  There is no indication that he yet owned any land.  He was located near his father, David, who owned 247 acres, 1 horse and 2 cows [27].

In the 1809 tax list, for some reason, David’s name does not appear, although it does again in 1810, so it seems clear that he was still living in Providence Twp.  In Hopewell Twp, we again find one entry for Captain Thomas Buck (none for his son) and here again we find his old friend John Piper residing near him in Hopewell.  In fact, there are two John Pipers there—one of which is designated as John Piper, Esq. (probably the father) who has a son by the same name.  The importance of this name is that a John Piper, Esq. was the executor of Captain Thomas Buck’s will in 1821. 

In 1810 there was another US Census conducted, and in Bedford Co., PA we find only two Buck families in the entire county [28]: Thomas in Hopewell and David in Providence.  This is not surprising as it is consistent with other records.  The only question we have is why we continually show only one Thomas Buck in Hopewell, and is this the father (Capt.) or is it the son, Thomas Jr.  Both men owned separate parcels of land there as early as 1787.  Perhaps one had sold his land and moved in with the other, or perhaps one of them by now had moved away.  We cannot be certain about that point at this time.  This census also does not show the oldest son of our David, the Thomas Buck who was born in 1789 and who would have been 21 years old by now.  This young man eventually made his way west to Ohio and then on to Indiana where we find him in the 1850, and again in the 1860 census.

In the 1814 tax list for the same county, only Thomas Buck of Hopewell Twp is shown.  Beside his entry there is an interesting note by the tax collector that says that Thomas was 73 years old at that time [29].  This would lead us to calculate his birth to be 1740 (as we have mentioned several times previously).  This clearly sets him (the “Captain”) apart from the Thomas Buck (his father) who married Elizabeth Scott in 1738 in Litchfield, CT, and gives a strong indication that he was probably their oldest child.

Captain Thomas Buck’s youngest daughter was named “Abigal” (sic) [31].  We do not know the date of her birth, but if she was the youngest, then it seems likely that she may have been born about 1775-80 {our speculation based upon the presumed dates of birth of her siblings}.  If this was so, she probably married roughly about 1795-1800, at around the age of 20.  In the 1821 will of her father, Captain Thomas Buck, the reference to her indicates that she had married a man by the name of Levi Jones, and that she had also died prior to the writing of the will.  It doesn’t indicate whether her husband had also died, or not.

“… I give and bequeath to the heirs of my daughter Abigal deceased intermarried with Levi Jones one hundred pounds to be equally divided.”   [Will of Thomas Buck – 1821]

From this we can tell that she had more than one child and Thomas gave them a fairly good sum to be divided between her children. 

Now, over in Washington Co., PA (a distance of about 80-90 miles to the west and just SW of the city of Pittsburgh) we found the following notice:

                    B-313 Orphans Court, Last Monday in October 1813.

                    Levi Jones Estate.  Jacob Griffiths, Admr.  Account.

This doesn’t give us much information other than to indicate that a man by the name of Levi Jones had died and his estate was being administered in Oct. 1813.  It is not clear if his wife was still living at that time, but let’s assume that she was and that she was the daughter of Captain Thomas Buck, who claims her children as heirs in his will of 1821.  If so, she would have married by 1800 and had children, in 1813, ranging anywhere between the ages of 0 to about 13.  If this woman was struggling to care for these children, then it is possible that her loving father, Captain Thomas Buck, may have felt a desire to move there to help her with her family—or at his age, and with the passing of his latest wife, he may have just wanted to go to his daughter’s home to have someone looking after him.  {The fact that the estate was handled in the “Orphans Court” does not mean that the children were totally orphaned without any parent.  The Orphans Court was merely the name of the court that handled all wills, probate and estate settlements.} 

In the 1817 tax list for Bedford Co. Thomas Buck of Hopewell Twp was again the only Buck shown in the county [32], but it is not clear whether this was for Thomas Buck (the Captain) or his son, Thomas Jr., but we suspect it was the latter.  One wonders if David Buck’s place was so hard to find along Brush Creek that it was over-looked again on this occasion—(or had David died prior to this date?). 

There are two reasons that we speculate that Captain Thomas Buck may have departed Bedford Co., at some point around 1815-1818: 1) the records for taxes and lands in Bedford do not show the presence of two different Thomas Bucks in Hopewell any more, and the 1817 list for one Thomas Buck, could have been for his son, Thomas Jr.; and 2) there is a record of a marriage:

     Capt. Thomas Buck of Strabane Twp., and Elenor Lindsey of Canton Twp., were

     married Dec. 30, 1819.   Marriage performed by Rev. Charles Wheeler.

     [Marriages taken from the Washington, Pennsylvania weekly newspaper:

   "The Reporter", Washington Co., PA., Sept. 1814--Feb. 1820.]

Foot notes to: The Thomas Buck, Sr.  Family of Bedford County, PA


Glastonbury, Connecticut Vital Records from the Barbour collection for births, marriages and burials.

see also:


Gleanings from the records for Temple work completed in the Endowment House

in SLC by the Buck family:

Update: 9-18-07 – correspondence from  Gordon Bates:

I think your tie in above (the "Brush Creek" tie in) plus what I’m going to write here will be

sufficient evidence for us to claim the Thomas Buck we are working with as our ancestor, the

father of David Buck. In checking PAFF Insight just now I discovered that:

Thomas Buck’s proxy baptism was done in the Endowment House on 25 July, 1872.

Elizabeth Scott’s proxy baptism was done in the Endowment House 25 July, 1872.

He and Elizabeth were sealed by proxy in the Endowment House on 24 July, 1872.

No problem, it’s not uncommon for a sealing to come before a baptism as in this case.

David Buck’s proxy baptism was done in the Endowment House on 25 July 1872.

Catherine Cashman’s proxy baptism was done in Endowment House on 25 July 1872.

There is also a date in a sealing entry from PAF Isight stating that Thomas Buck and

Elizabeth Scott were originally married on 4 May, 1738 in Glastonbury, Connecticut.

Whoever did that proxy work in 1872 had to be original Utah Pioneers. Who else, other than

our grandmothers Elizabeth Buck Garlick and her daughter, Susanna Garlick Wakefield. The

very two who connected us up with the Wakefields in the first place. Elizabeth with her

dream and Susanna with her marriage. Both of these grandmothers were in the right area in

1872. In fact, your uncle Melvin took Arletta and I to their graves in Springville, Utah. Melvin

has a photo of their gravestones which states that Elizabeth died on 5 September, 1888 in

Spanish Fork, which is right next to Springville. Susannah died on 17 April 1890, in

Springville. So this work had to have been done by our grandmother Elizabeth.

Who would better know who her grandfather was, than Elizabeth? I’ll check it out in Special

Collections the first chance I get to see if the proxies who did the work are named.


Today I was able to do some checking down in Special Collections, bottom floor of the Family 

History Library. Here’s what I found:

Film #0183398 VOL H 30 Oct -5 Jun 1873

In the Endowment House on July 24, 1872, the following were sealed by Joseph F. Smith:

entry #2764—David Buck, dead, and Catherine Cashman, dead—with no birth information

entry #2765—Thomas Buck, dead, and Elizabeth Scott, dead—with no birth information

entry #2766—Thomas Buck, dead, and Elizabeth Blew, dead—with no birth information

entry #2767—David Buck, dead, and Charity Clark, dead—no birth information with,

Joseph Garlic, heir, born 2 May 1827, Providence, Bedford, Pa; and Elizabeth Buck Garlic,

heiress proxy, born 2 May 1795, Providence, Bedford, Pa.

entry#2767—Joseph Garlic, dead, and Eve Clouny, dead—with no birth information

entry#2769—Adam Garlic, dead, and Sarah, his wife, dead—no birth information, with

Joseph Garlic, heir, born 2 May 1827, Providence, Bedford, Pa. and Hannah Garlic Shephard,

heiress, born 1 June 1878, Providence, Bedford, Pa.

So what does this mean? It means that Elizabeth Buck Garlic was present as a proxy,

heiress when these sealings were done. Who would better know the names of her

grandparents than Elizabeth Buck Garlic? Too bad she didn’t give us an indication as to their

places of birth and birth dates.

{Note: The individuals above may need some clarification: Elizabeth Buck Garlick is our direct ancestor and a convert to the LDS Church while residing in Bedford County, PA in the October 1837.  She was born on 2 May 1795 in Providence Twp, Bedford Co., PA (see that date and place given above).  Here in the Endowment House on 24 & 25 July, 1872 (at the age of 77) she, her son and daughter and others assisted as proxies in performing the temple work for her immediate family.  Her relationship to the deceased persons mentioned above are as follows:

Her parents were David Buck and Catherine Cashman

Her paternal grandparents were Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott (married 4 May 1738 in Litchfield, CT)

Her brother, Thomas Buck and his wife, Elizabeth Blue

Her brother, David Buck and his wife Charity Clark

Her husband’s brother, Adam Garlick and wife Sarah _______

Uncertain of her relationship with this Joseph Garlick and his wife, Eve Clouny}


1880 US Census for Utah

Individual Record                        1880 United States Census

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Elizabeth GARLICK                            Household



Other Information:


Birth Year                                                                      <1795> 

Birthplace                                                                         PA 

Age                                                                                     85 


Marital Status                                                            W <Widowed> 

Race                                                                            W <White> 

Head of Household                                                Elizabeth GARLICK

Relation                                                                            Self 

Father's Birthplace                                                          NJ 

Mother's Birthplace                                                        HOLL 


Source Information:


Census Place                                                        Springville, Utah, Utah 

Family History Library Film                                         1255338

NA Film Number                                                            T9-1338

Page Number                                                                   168B      


Correspondence from Gordon Bates:   “Ichabod, 1767?, a possible exception here, look at what I found in the IGI:

Ichabod Buck; Male; Birth: About 1767 Of, Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania; Baptism: 25 JUL 1872; (same baptismal date as the sealing date of our Endowment House family members) Endowment: 21 JAN 1931; Sealing to Parents: 29 NOV 1967 SLAKE; Thomas Buck / Elizabeth Scott; Father: Thomas Buck; Mother: Elizabeth Scott; Spouse: Unavailable;

Film Number: 537147, a different film than the film of Elizabeth Buck Garlic’s work as an heiress proxy, #083398.


1775 PA Tax List for Bedford Co.               PA Arch. Series III.  Vol. XXII.

Last name    First name    Township        Tax amt.

Buck                Thomas       Colerain Twp    7 lbs. 6

This is the only Buck listed in Bedford Co. at this time.

This is the earliest mention of Thomas Buck in Bedford Co.  He was head of a household at that time.

Searched the 1773 & 1774 tax lists and no Thomas Buck was found in either.


1776 PA Tax List for Bedford Co.         PA Arch Series III, Vol. XXII

Last Name        First Name        Township

Buck                    Thomas            Colerain

Buck                   Jonathan           Colerain


In a letter from Burch Stevens (a direct descendent of Jonathan Buck, from Bedford Co., PA, who moved to Putnam/Sullivan Co. TN in 1793) he related:

        “I read in a book about Putnam TN that Jonathan's father was Thomas…”

While this quote does not prove that Jonathan’s father was our Thomas Buck, it strongly hints at the same conclusion to which we had come from the family association of these men in Bedford Co. PA. 


In an additional quote from a separate letter of Burch Stevens (see above) he stated:

“My Jonathan Buck was born in 1755 & died in 1831 in Cookeville, TN. His revolutionary record stated he was from Bedford Co., PA. He sold his land in Bedford co. in 1789 and appeared in Carter Co., TN by 1793. He got a land grant for his services in Jackson Co., TN in 1826 which was signed by Sam Houston, Governor of TN. I have a framed copy hanging in my kitchen.

I do not know my Jonathan's brothers or sisters. It seems to be mostly supposition or guesses. The data I have on my Jonathan is from a transcription of his family bible which was kept in a safety deposit box in Cookeville, TN. Cookeville is now in Putnam Co., TN, which was created in 1854 from Jackson, White & Overton Counties…

I have only seen a copy of a certified transcript of Jonathan's bible attested to by a lady in Cookeville, TN who saw the bible & copied it in the 1930's.  Jonathan is buried on his farm which is now partially in the City of Cookeville, now Putnam, TN. The farm is now owned by Harold Mullins, & the cemetery is very well maintained.”


Payment record for enlistees in the Pennsylvania military.  From the PA State Archives via the Internet at:   Revolutionary War Military Abstract Card File Index.   There are multiple cards from this file that will be given for various Bucks from this same source, but not all will be shown at this point in the notes.  

[9]   ibid.


This is a very interesting entry in that it specifically uses the term of “Capt.” In conjunction with the name of Thomas Buck.  We take this to be rather strong evidence of another marriage for this man.  If so, this would probably be his third wife (i.e. first wife’s name is not yet known, 2nd possible wife: Mrs. Margaret Long, and 3rd: Elenor Lindsey.)  The aging Captain had probably been living in Washington County, PA since about 1815-18.  It is also apparent that he was already a resident of Strabane Twp at the time of this wedding. 

This marriage may not have lasted long.  Just a few months later, in the 1820 census, there is a listing for a Thomas Buck, over 45 years of age, residing in Strabane Twp, of Washington Co., but the only female in the household was between 10-16 years of age.  This seems to indicate that his recent wife may have already died.  There were four males of all ages and we can’t account for all of these but most were likely to be his grandchildren—the children of his daughter, Abigal Buck Jones. 

Going back now to Bedford Co., in this same 1820 US Census, we find the record for a number of Bucks (probably men of the next generation) but only one in Providence Twp: David (who by then would have been about 60 years old, if this was David Sr., or it could have been his son, David Jr.).  He was living here along with a number of residents in his household, most of whose ages do not correlate well with what we would have expected, but the census records were not always terribly accurate. 

In Hopewell Twp, there is also only one Buck, and it is a Thomas Buck (age over 45 years—which would match up with Thomas Buck Jr., who by then should have been about 45-55 years). This man had a number of people residing with him, both males and females of all ages, so perhaps the younger Thomas was married after all, or else had some other folks living with him.  We do not believe though, that this entry is for the older Captain Thomas Buck, as it is clear that he was residing in Strabane Twp in Washington Co. 

Then, just a few months after that 1820 census, on 9 Feb. 1821, Thomas Buck (the Captain) seems to have returned to Bedford Co., where, at about age 81, he wrote out his will and had it registered there on 7 April, 1821 [31].  One of the witnesses, and in fact the executor of the will, was his old neighbor John Piper, Esq. who lived in Hopewell Twp, near Thomas’ home.  Two of the other witnesses were Charles and James Hanna.  There was another Hanna(h) family that lived on Brush Creek, in Providence Twp, adjoining the land of Jonathan Buck (when he lived there) and who lived near by David Buck in that township.  There is no indication that any of these men were related but they were certainly neighbors and friends.  We do not have the date of Thomas’ actual passing and burial, but it would not have been too long after the writing of this will.  At the age of at least 81, or thereabouts, he probably didn’t last much longer and may have returned back to his old home in Bedford Co. in full anticipation of being on the verge of his death.  It appears that his last wife had already gone and his grandchildren would have been mostly grown before his return at this time.

David Buck had evidently been feeling the effects of his age and had drawn up his own will a few years earlier, on Feb. 25, 1816 in Bedford County [30].  The witnesses to his will took it to the county courthouse to have it registered the following month, on Mar. 28, 1816.  It was not “proved” at that time, but merely registered.  Therefore, we don’t know the date of David’s death, other than it occurred sometime after February 1816. 

David and his wife Catherine Cashman Buck, may have had many children, but in his will, he mentions the following as still living heirs: his wife, Catherine; sons: Thomas and David (Jr.); and daughters: Elizabeth, Susannah and Mary.  The oldest living daughter, Elizabeth, later married David Garlick (1 Oct. 1816, in Bedford County, PA) and is our direct ancestor.  Note that her marriage occurred later in the same year as David’s will.

By 1820 the Bucks had lived in Bedford County for almost half a century.  Most of the children of Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck had died or moved away (other than Captain Thomas and his younger brother, David).  A new, younger generation was growing up and appearing in the census record [33].  These would have been the grandchildren of our Thomas and Elizabeth Buck.  This includes the names of: Daniel, David, Joal, Matthew, Stephen, Thomas, and William.  We cannot place each of these in the correct families at this time. 

As discussed already, Captain Thomas Buck was living in Washington County in the 1820 census, but returned back to Bedford in early 1821 to make his will and it appears that he probably died there at about that time.  Thomas’ will lists his children as: Sara, David, Thomas, Richard and Abigal.  His brother, David, in his 1816 will, lists his children as: Thomas, Elizabeth, Susannah, David and Mary.  The names shown above in the 1820 census do not track all that well with those listed in these two wills.  At this point in our research, we will not pursue trying to identify each of the next generation.  We will list in the “notes” at the end of this chapter, some information from the 1850 and 1860 US census for PA & OH for the two sons of our David and Catherine Cashman Buck (i.e. Thomas and David Jr.) as that is helpful for those who wish to continue following those lines [34].

Before we wrap up this chapter on our Bucks in Bedford Co., PA, we need to make a brief mention of some additional family members who we found only through the baptismal and sealing records performed by David Buck’s daughter, Elizabeth Buck Garlick, in Nauvoo, Ill., and in the Endowment House on 24 and 25 July, 1872.  Were it not for that record, we would not know that the following were members of her family: Ichabod Buck (her uncle); Elizabeth Buck Castway (her aunt) and Massa Buck Ferguson (another aunt).  We have searched the various records in Bedford County and found very little for any of these three.

Ichabod Buck—We assume this man was one of the younger children of Thomas and Elizabeth, but that is really just speculation.  Joseph G. Garlick estimated his birth to be about 1767, but, like the other birth records, this is purely a guess and probably not accurate.  Because we never found any mention of him in the land records, tax lists, military records, etc. we assume that he probably lived passed the age of 8, but died before growing to full adulthood or marrying.  We also did not find any mention of children for this man. 

There is a TIB card [see appendices E & F below] which “guesses” that this man’s wife was an “Elizabeth Blue” and has had them sealed together.  This is an error, as the same people who sealed that woman (or one by the same name) to him, also sealed her to his brother, Thomas Buck and also to his nephew, another Thomas Buck.  It seems doubtful that she married all three.  We know that her actual husband was really the younger nephew Thomas, who was the son of our David Buck. 

Otherwise, we have been unable to find anything further on this man.  We will add him to the family group of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott, based solely upon the fact that his niece, Elizabeth Buck Garlick, had his work performed in the Endowment House and had personal knowledge of him as her uncle [36 & 3].

Aside from that, we did find several records for another “Ichabod Buck” who was born in 1757 in New Caanan, Albany Co., NY, served in the NY military during the revolution, settled later in Luzern Co., PA, and later in life resettled in Susquehanna Co., PA.  However, in searching his military records, it became evident that he was the son of a “Major Daniel Buck”, from Massachusetts, and not the man we were looking for. 

Elizabeth Buck Castway—Similarly, we only know of this woman because Elizabeth Buck Garlick (EBG) was personally baptized for her and noted that she was a “niece” of this woman [37].  She is also listed on the “One Family Group Record” submitted by JGG [appendix B] but that information was collected from the Endowment House Transcript cited above. 

We have searched each census record for every state from 1790 to 1850 and have not found any “Castway” or “Castaway” listed who would seem to fit this family.  More work needs to be done here.  It would appear that this couple may have moved away, and perhaps even died young without leaving any known posterity.  

Massa Buck Ferguson—Once again, the only knowledge we have of this family is that Elizabeth Buck Garlick was baptized in the Endowment House (1872) as the “niece” of a “Massa Ferguson” [37].  Additionally, she was baptized for a “cousin” who was also named “Massa Ferguson” presumably the daughter of the first Massa.  Massa’s name also appears on that “One Family Group Record” for the family of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott shown in Appendix B toward the end of this chapter.

In the male baptisms on that same date, Elizabeth Buck Garlick’s son, Joseph G. Garlick, was baptized for a Thomas Ferguson and a Benjamin Ferguson [36], thought to be two sons of Massa Buck Ferguson.  It is also believed that Massa’s husband’s name was “Thomas Ferguson” [listed as such on the One Family Group Record in appendix B]. 

In addition to the two sons listed above, a baptism was also performed for a “Zellah Ferguson” [37].  (Zillah appears to be the wife of Benjamin Ferguson.  We found the record of a Benjamin and Zillah (his wife) Ferguson selling land in Bedford Co., PA to David Buck.)  No dates for any of their births were given.  In the Ancestral File, one can find a Family Group Record for this family with dates “speculated” for their births showing them to be born “about” 1796-1802, but these are purely guesses and probably not correct. 

We did find several Fergusons in Providence, Bedford County, and suspect that her husband’s family may be among those.  There was a “Thomas Ferguson” of Cumberland Co., (adjacent to Bedford on the east side and very near to Providence) who enlisted in the militia and was assigned to fight the Indians in Bedford County during the Revolutionary War.  His military papers show that he lost the sight of his right eye when it was grazed by an Indian’s bullet.  He eventually left that area and moved to Mason Co., KY and then to Fleming Co., KY where he made application for his military pension benefits.  There is no mention in his papers of any family and we do not know if this is the same man who married our Massa Buck or not.  With more work, we might be able to find additional information on this family.  We do not know the birth year for Massa either but suspect that she may have been one of the younger children in the family, but that is just a guess too.

The above three Buck children are siblings of our David Buck.  Additionally, we should make some comment about what became of this David’s children. 

His oldest son, Thomas Buck (born 1789-90) was noted in the 1808 Bedford tax list (at age 18-19) [27] as a young man, but he married a neighbor girl, Elizabeth Blue (daughter of Michael Blue) in Bedford Co. 

They seem to have departed almost immediately thereafter and are not found in Bedford Co. again.  There is a Family Group Record that shows their oldest daughter, Orpha Buck, as “probably” being born in NY.  The other children were born in Ohio.  This family eventually settled in Pulaski Co., Indiana [34].  We are not certain of the names of all their children, but the Ancestral File seems to have specific names for five of the daughters and lists them in this order: Orpha, Ruth, Nancy, Mary & Lucretia.  Additionally, in the 1850 IN census, we find a “John Buck” [34] living immediately next to Thomas and Elizabeth (Blue) Buck and he appears to have been born right in the middle of his sisters and is a sure fit for this family.  We can trace his children and grandchildren in that area for several more generations by following the census records.

Additionally, in the 1872 Endowment House baptisms performed by Elizabeth Buck Garlick (EBG) and her children, we find they did the work for: Ruth, Nancy, Lucretia [37], John and James [36] Buck.  (Presumably Orpha and Mary may have still been living and therefore their work was not completed at that time.)  We do not know if the “James Buck” mentioned was a part of this family or perhaps a cousin to these, and a son of David Jr.  But, all of the others can be found in this family of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Blue.  (Note on “James Buck”—in the next generation, among the children of John Buck, the son of this Thomas Buck, in Indiana, there was a little boy named “James”.  This may be a hint that the other James Buck (from the baptismal records in the EH) may have belonged to this family and died young, causing his brother, John, to name one of his children after the dead brother… but so far we have not been able to find him, so this is still conjecture.)

Elizabeth Buck Garlick—This is our direct grandmother.  Instead of telling her story here, we will simply refer the reader to appendices G, H & I toward the end of this compilation where brief histories are included about her life that were written by her family who knew her personally.

Susannah Buck—This woman was specifically mentioned in her father’s 1816 will which clearly indicates that she was the middle of his three daughters [30].  The oldest, Elizabeth, was born in 1795, the youngest, Mary, was born in 1800, so this woman would have been born about 1797-98. 

In the EH baptisms in 1872, EBG (Elizabeth Buck Garlick) was baptized for this woman as her “sister” [37].  Her maiden name was used, and as far as we can tell, everyone who was married was baptized using their “married name”, but this woman was only shown as “Susannah Buck”.  We have not found any marriage record for her, nor any indication of any children.  However JGG, in his “One Family Group Record” for David Buck’s family [see appendix C] shows her as the wife of “Solomon Sparks”.  There were a lot of “Sparks” men in Bedford County and the surrounding area, including several by the name of “Solomon”, but so far we have not been successful in finding any who would be of the right age for this woman. 

Several submissions have been made to the Ancestral File for this woman (showing her birth incorrectly as about 1814) and married to a Solomon Sparks (born about 1810), but this is in error.  First of all, that woman would be way too young to be our Susannah Buck.  Secondly, a closer check shows this younger Solomon to be married to a “Susan Black” not Susannah Buck.  Again, someone who was overly eager to solve a dilemma made an error here.  Much more work needs to be done but we must now seriously question the source of that information to see where it came from, and why it claims she was married to a “Solomon Sparks”, as we are not certain that she was ever married at all. 

David Buck, Jr.—This man was born in Providence, Bedford Co., PA about 1800.  His youngest sister was also born in 1800 and it is possible the two may have been twins.  They seemed to be very close.  He remained in Bedford County, PA all of his life, as far as we can tell.  We find him in succeeding census records up through 1850, but not after that date.  In that census, besides having his sister, Mary, and her daughter, Sarah Buck, living with him, he and his wife, Charity Clark, still had three children at home: Catherine (19), Jonathan (16), and Diana Buck (12) [34].  David was 50 years old at this time and may have had additional children older than these, but we have not been able to identify any for certain.  By studying the census records, land records, etc. we may be able to identify more of the older children for this family.

Mary Buck—This sister of our Elizabeth Buck Garlick (EBG) also presents some difficulties.  Her father’s 1816 will [30] clearly states that his youngest daughter was “Mary”.  From family history, we have a birth date for her of 10 Oct. 1800.  This woman seems to have outlived the 1872 date in which so much proxy work was performed in the Endowment House, and because she was still alive at that time, no work was performed for her. 

In JGG’s “One Family Group Record” for David Buck’s family, it shows this woman as married to an “Amoa Jones” (presumably “Amos” but misspelled).  We have searched and searched and found an Amos Jones (of an older generation) in Maryland, but no indication that he, or any descendent by that name, came to Bedford County or was in a position to marry this woman.  We have no idea where his name came from or how it got on that family record sheet.  We cannot say it is wrong, but it is very suspicious. 

Outside of being named in her father’s will in 1816, we cannot find any other record for her, until the 1850 PA census.  At that time, she was living in the home of her brother, David Jr. and both of them said they were 50 years old.  She is listed after David, his wife and his three children.  She is also listed by her “maiden name” of Buck (not Jones).  No husband is shown, but following her name is the name of a “Sarah Buck” age 25.  This is in the exact position where we would expect to see a child of this woman.  Sarah Buck was indeed the daughter of Mary Buck.  Note that both of these women are using the surname of “Buck”.  This seems to indicate that Sarah is Mary’s daughter but that there was no known father to give her his surname? 

In the 1860 PA census, Mary was still in Bedford Co. and again in 1870.  In each record, she was listed as “Mary Buck” and never as “Mary Jones”.  By the time of this last census, she would have been about 70 years old (although she said she was only 69).  She does not appear in the 1880 census and had surely died prior to that date. 

In the 1860 PA census, she was living with Jacob I. Foor and his two daughters: Diana  Foor (age 6) and Mary C. Foor (age 4).  The fact that she was living in the home of this man who was 20 years younger than her seems to indicate that he was probably her son-in-law and that her daughter, Sarah, had died before 1860. 

We have now found Mary Buck's will (dated 15 Apr. 1879 in Bedford Co, and probated in Aug. 1879 indicating that she had died during that interval).  In it she gives her entire estate to just one heir, Diana E. Foor, her "Granddotter".  That was the older of the two children of Jacob I. Foor in the 1860 census.  Surely the other granddaughter, Mary C. Foor, must have died before 1879 and left no family.

In the 1870 PA census, Mary Buck was living with Catherine Buck (a niece and the daughter of her brother, David Buck, Jr.).  That woman had a 3-year old daughter living with them who was retarded and shows at that time with the surname of Buck, but later has a different surname, although her mother, Catherine, still retained the surname of Buck.


In summary, we have documentation for the marriage of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott in 1738.  We also have documentation for the names of three of their sons: Thomas (born 1740—the man we refer to as “Captain”), David (born about 1752 in NJ), and Ichabod (his birth is estimated to be about 1767—but this is a guess without any documentation).  All of the above was recorded by David’s daughter in the Endowment House records in 1872 in Salt Lake City, UT.  We cannot prove that we are correct in our presentation of the names of their other children.  However, we have speculated that they include: John Sr.; Joseph; and Jonathan.  We deduced this by “association”, not by documentation.  Although the Endowment House Transcript lists these names (except for John Sr. and Joseph) and also adds the names of two daughters, Massa and Elizabeth.  We have shown that Jonathan lived in Colerain Twp, next to a Thomas (who we believe was probably their father); we showed that David and John Sr. lived in the same place (Colerain) next to each other and probably on their father’s original farm; then a Thomas (the Captain) enlisted in the PA Militia from Colerain Twp.; Jonathan and David then enlisted together (in the very same company with each other) from Bedford Co. in the PA Militia; then David and Jonathan both owned land next to each other in Providence Twp; Jonathan, Joseph and Captain Thomas re-enlisted together from 1784-85 all from Bedford Co.; Captain Thomas (of Hopewell Twp) then bought the land on the mouth of Brush Creek in 1787, from Jonathan Buck, which was next to where David Buck also lived.  John and Joseph then occupied lands together in Cumberland Twp (south of the town of Bedford, in Bedford Co. at the same time; then Joseph, John Sr., John Jr., and William all moved to Quemahoning Twp together; they were soon joined there by Jonathan (1787); then all of those Bucks disappeared from the area at about the same time (1790-92), leaving only Captain Thomas and David still remaining in Bedford County, together with their children.  While this isn’t proof of their brotherhood, it is certainly such a strong argument that we feel confident in presenting it as our firm belief.

Rather than trying to document the succeeding generations, we will simply attach, as appendices at the end of this chapter, copies of two interesting histories of some descendents of David Buck and Catherine Cashman that give additional color and interest to this work.  At this time we will turn our attention back around in the other direction to seek the ancestry of this family and hopefully find some documentation of them in New Jersey and/or Connecticut.

No genealogical work can ever be fully completed, and neither is this one.  There is always the chance, and indeed, the hope, that we will find even more documentation for these families.  Some of it may substantiate our research, but there is also a good chance that some of it may correct or modify this work.  We welcome it.  The goal is to find our direct ancestry and to seal them to the right persons.

Our research has not produced very much that is “new” in terms of temple-ready work for our direct ancestors; however, it has substantiated some of the information that we previously had but were unsure of its accuracy.  It has also corrected many of the dates or timing of family members of two generations.  Additionally, it has opened our eyes to some of the events transpiring in the lives of these good people, so it has been a fun and rewarding project.  We pray now for success in the next phase of our Buck and Scott family research.



1779 PA Tax List -- Bedford Co.

Last Name        First Name            Land holdings        Township

Buck                     David                        50 acres                Colerain

Buck                    John                         100 acres               Colerain

Buck                    Thomas                    200 acres               Hopewell


1780 Census (list of taxables) for PA, Bedford Co.

Last name          First name                Township

Buck                        David                      Colerain

Buck                        John                       Colerain

Buck                        Thos                       Hopewell


List of Revolutionary War soldiers from Bedford Co., PA

Buck, David.

1781, Capt George Enslow's Bedford Co Militia, private.   5 PA Arch 5 at 93

Buck, Jonathan

1781, Capt George Enslow's Bedford Co Militia, private.   5 PA Arch 5 at 93;  2 PA Arch 14 at 669

Buck, Joseph

Bedford Co Militia.  2 PA Arch 14 at  668

Buck, Thomas

1777, Capt, 1st Batt, Co 1, Bedford Co Militia.   2 PA Arch 14 at 644 & 668;   5 PA Arch 5 at 63

*From: Bedford  Co. in the American Revolution by James B. Whisker   1985.

Found in the FHC in Salt Lake City.   (Update 8-30-07:  See the actual abstracts for these men.)


PA State Archives -- Revolutionary War Military Abstracts.  Card File  Series #13.50

Name            First           County         Township         Document        Date issued    Document type

Buck            Thomas       Bedford                                   certif issued      7 April, 1785    Militia Loan 1 Apr. 1784 &

                                                                                                                                                    30 Mar. 1785

Buck            David          Bedford         Providence         certif issued     12 July, 1781    Pvt. 1st Batt. 7th class.

                                                                                                                                          Capt. George Enslo

Buck        Jonathan        Bedford         Providence         certif issued      12 July 1781    Pvt. 1st Batt. 4th class.

                                                                                                                                          Capt. George Enslo

Buck        Jonathan        Bedford                                     certif issued     12 April, 1785    Militia Loan of 1 Apr. 1784 &

                                                                                                                                                      30 Mar. 1785

Buck        Joseph           Bedford          Militia                  certif issued     8 Sep, 1785       Militia Loan of 1 Apr. 1784 &

                                                                                                                                                      30 Mar. 1785

Buck        Joseph                                New Levies                                  10 Aug. 1780    (No comment where enlisted—

                                                                                                                                           different Joseph Buck?)






1784 PA Tax List -- Bedford Co.

Last Name        First Name            Township                      Additional comments

Buck                    Jonathan               Providence                    5 whites in household

Buck                    David                    Providence                    Single freeman, 4 whites in household

Buck                    Joseph                 Cumberland Valley         300 acres, 1 house, 1 white

Buck                    John                     Cumberland Valley        1 house, 4 whites

Buck                    Thomas                Hopewell                        1 house, 4 whites


1785 PA Tax List for Bedford Co.

Last Name        First Name            land owned            township

Buck                    Thomas                300 acres                Hopewell

Buck                    Jonathan              200 acres                Providence

Buck                    Joseph                 100 acres                Quemahoning

Buck                    William                    ------                     Quemahoning

Buck                    John Sr.                  ------                      Quemahoning

Buck                    John Jr.                  5 acres                  Quemahoning

Garlick                Christopher            100                         Providence

{Note:  This is the first mention of “William Buck”.  We don’t know his age, but he was not mentioned as a land owner in the previous year (1784).   So, if he was now about 20 years of age (supposition) then he would have been born by, or before 1765.  He was of a similar age to John Buck Jr. (who we estimated to be born about 1763, and who was also not listed in the previous year’s tax list.)  We do not know who this William was, but because we have not seen any record of him before this date, and John Sr. already had one son (John Jr.) old enough to own land by this time, then we will “assume” that William may have also been a member of the next generation, and not one of the brothers of our David.  This may be a false assumption, but so far we do not have any reason to assign him as one of the children of our Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck.}


"Warrantees of Land, County of Bedford 1771-1893"                                                            (My comments)

Last name            First name            acres        date                    Page #

"Burk"                    Thomas                  300        22 Feb 1785            457

Buck                      Jonathan                200        28 Oct 1785             457

Buck                      Joseph                   200        29 June 1786           458

Buck                      Thomas                  400        28 Feb 1787            458  **

Buck                      Thomas, Jr             100        28 Feb 1787            458

Buck                      Thomas                  100        16 Feb 1789            459                                Thomas Jr.?

Buck                      Joseph                    400         4 Apr 1794             466

Buck                      Joseph                    400       16 June 1794           468

Buck                      Daniel                     400        16 June 1794          468

Buck                     Jeremiah                 400        16 June 1794           468

Buck                      William                   400         18 July 1794          468  ***            Land adjoining Thomas Hannah

Buck                      Thomas                   25          24 July 1795          469                                Thomas Jr.?

Buck                      Thomas                  100         27 June 1806         469                                Thomas Jr.?

Buck                      Thomas                    20         20 Sep 1806          469                                Thomas Jr.?

Buck                      David, EX                 28          3 June 1845           473


** Note --

28 Feb. 1787.  Thomas Buck applied for 400 acres including an improvement on the south side of Raystown Branch of the Juniata River on both sides of Brush Creek, adjoining Allison's survey, in Providence  Twp.  (Source: Early Land Applications, Bedford Co. PA).

The description of this land matches the description of the land that was previously owned by Jonathan Buck.  It also correlates with the comment of Burch Stevens who said that his ancestor, Jonathan Buck, sold his land in Bedford Co., PA in 1787, before moving to Tennessee; although he (Jonathan) may still have remained in the Quemahoning Twp until after the 1790 census, but he was in Tennessee by 1793. 


1790 US Census for PA -- Bedford County

Last name  First name     page #    White males >/= 16    White males <16    White Females     All other  Slaves

Buck            David                   20                        2                            2                                3                        0          0

Buck            John                    25                        2                            3                                4                        0          0

Buck            Jonathan             24                        1                            4                                4                        0          0

Buck            Joseph                25                        1                            0                                3                        0            0

Buck            Thomas               21                        3                            1                                3                        0            0

Buck            William                25                        1                            1                                4                        0            0

"Ruck"         Samuel                25                        1                            1                                3                        0            0

Garlick        Christly                20                         1                            5                                3                        0            0

Wakefield    Joseph                20                        2                            3                                3                        0            0

Cashman    Christopher        287                        1                            1                                2                York Co

Cashman    Jacob                 119                        1                            1                                2                Franklin Co.

Only two Cashmans were found in all of PA and neither was in Bedford Co. in 1790 census/tax list.

{Note:  The above document is from page 20 of the 1790 US Census for Pennsylvania.  It shows a number of interesting families who were close neighbors of our David Buck.  Since he was then living in Providence Twp, we are confident that all of these others were also residents of that same township, although the census does not list the township for this year.  The first column shows the number of males age 16 or more; the next column is for the number of males under age 16; and the last is for the total number of females in the home.  For David Buck, we know of only one of his children who would have been alive at this time—a son, Thomas, born the prior year (1789).  That young man grew up to eventually marry Elizabeth Blue, who was about two or three years older than him and was one of the females shown as a very close neighbor (she was the daughter of Michael “Micael” Blue).   David’s only other surviving son, David Jr. (not born until about 1800) grew up to marry Charity Clark (who was probably an unborn daughter of another neighbor, either Samuel Clark, or Andrew Clark). 

Notice the name of Joseph Wakefield as another resident of this very same area in Bedford Co.  We do not know of any relationship between this Joseph Wakefield and our John Fleming Wakefield.  However, for some reason, when John F. Wakefield joined the LDS Church, he served a mission to share the gospel with others, and came to this part of Bedford County to begin that mission.  Why did he come here?  Could it be that he had cousins, by some name, still residing in the area?  There were other Wakefields—not related to us—and this man may have no connection with us at all, but it is an interesting observation to find him located so close to where our John F. Wakefield soon appeared on his mission. 

Now, lets turn our attention to the name of Christly (perhaps short for Chrstian?) Garlick as a close neighbor of our David Buck in 1750.  The IGI shows only two men with similar names in that entire time frame:

1)  Christian Garlach born about 1772 in German Flats, Herkimer Co., NY (which is very similar to where we believe our Stephen Garlick (Gerlach, Garlach, etc.) came from, and

2)  Christly Garlick born about 1775 in New Milford, Litchfield Co., CT. (which is very close to where some Bucks lived in an earlier generation than those who showed up in Bedford Co.) 


Notice that in the 1790 census he is shown as "Christly" the exact same spelling as the man in New Milford, CT.  He was clearly a close neighbor of our David Buck in Providence Twp in Bedford Co., PA.  At this time, he was the only Garlick (by any spelling) in that county.  However, David Buck's daughter, Elizabeth, (our ancestor) who was not born until 1795, eventually married, in Providence twp, Bedford Co. a David Garlic, the son of Stephen Garlick, who moved there from NJ, and before that is thought to have come from the Mohawk Valley in Herkimer Co., NY, where he may have been born about 1756. 


Our ancestor, Stephen, had a son Jacob, who also had a son named "Christian Garlick", born in 1837, in Providence twp, Bedford Co., PA.  Coincidence?  It seems likely that our Stephen Garlick was probably closely related to this Christly and may have moved to Providence because Christly was already living there. 


There were Garlicks in Litchfield Co., CT near our Buck family and one wonders if they may have known each other there and influenced the decision of some of the Garlicks to move to Bedford Co. after their arrival in this area.  Might Christly be a nephew of our Stephen and a cousin to our David Garlick?  And if so, maybe Stephen's place of birth was in Litchfield Co., CT where he left his brothers and moved out to the Mohawk Valley of NY to begin his family, before moving south, to NJ and then eventually to PA.} 


entry #2765—Thomas  Buck, dead, and Elizabeth Scott, dead—no birth information with,

Joseph Garlic, heir, born 2 May 1827, Providence, Bedford, Pa; and Elizabeth Buck Garlic,

heiress proxy, born 2 May 1795, Providence, Bedford, Pa.

The above transcription of an entry in the Endowment House records of sealings of families was for the deceased grandparents of our Elizabeth Buck Garlick, who was there personally to perform the proxy sealing as their “heiress” (direct descendant).  This record, made during her life, and with her personally in attendance, also gives her own birth date as 2 May, 1795. 


1800 US Census for PA -- Bedford Co.

Last name        First name            County            page #

Buck                    David                   Bedford            399

Buck                    Thomas               Bedford            425

(only Bucks in Bedford Co.)

Garlick                Stephen               Bedford            403

Blue                    Conrad                 Bedford            439

Blue                    Michael                Bedford            399


Question: Who are David Buck and Charity Clark in the 24 July 1872 Endowment House sealing?

These are: David Buck Jr., born about 1800 in West Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania,

son of David Buck and Catherine Cashman—with his wife, and

Charity Clark, born about 1805 in West Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania.  They re found in the 1850

U. S. Census:

Name: David Buck Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Birth Place: Pennsylvania

Gender: Male Home in 1850 (City, County, State): West Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania

Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: West Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania; Roll: M432_751; Page: 107; Image: 215.


1808 PA Tax List -- Bedford Co.

Last Name        First Name            Township                Other comments

Buck                    Thomas                Hopewell                201 acres in 4 locs in this twp, 2 horses, 1 cow

Buck                    Thomas                Providence             1 horse, $20.

Buck                    David                    Providence             247 acres, 1 horse, 2 cows


1810 US Census for PA -- Bedford Co.

Last name         First name            Township                    page

Buck                    David                    Providence                    558

Buck                    Thomas                Hopewell                       500

No :"Buck" found in Somerset Co., PA in 1810


1814 PA Tax List -- Bedford Co.

Last Name            First Name            Township                Other comments

Buck                    Thomas                Hopewell                    age 73


The Will of David Buck  (transcribed by Gordon Bates and Lionel Nebeker )


25 February, 1816 

“In the name of God, Amen. O be it remembered that I David Buck of Providence Township, Bedford County, State of Pennsylvania, being weak in body but of sound and perfect mind and memory, blessed be Almighty God for the same, do make and publish this my last will and testament in manner and form following:

That is to say—first it is my will that all my just debts and funeral charges be paid by my executor herein after mentioned as soon after my decease as it may be convenient.

Secondly I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Catherine Buck the third of my real and personal estate while she remains my widow.

I do also give and bequeath unto my eldest son Thomas Buck the sum of twenty dollars, this sum to be paid in five years after my decease.  

I do also give and bequeath to my youngest sone David Buck, all my land and personal property by paying the rest of the heirs the sums that I shall and have mentioned.  

I also give and bequeath to my  eldest daughter Elizabeth Buck the sum of twenty dollars bed and cow.  

I also give and bequeath to my next daughter Susannah Buck the sum of twenty dollars.  

I also give and bequeath to my youngest daughter Mary Buck the sum of twenty dollars which said several legacies or sums of money I will and order shall be paid to the said respective legatee within five years after my decease, whom I hereby appoint Peter Morgard sole executor of this my last [will] and testament, hereby revoking all former wills by me made.   In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this twenty fifth day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixteen.

Signed sealed published and delivered by the above named David Buck to be his last will and testament in the presence of us who at his request and in his presence have hereunto subscribed our names as witnesses to the same. 


Henry Deal                                                                        David  X  Buck  

Abraham Shafer                                                                         mark 

George Hymes 

Bedford County, personally appeared before me the subscriber Registers for the probate of wills and granting letters of administration in and for said County, Henry Deal and Abraham Shafer two of the subscribing witnesses to the within instrument in writing who being dduly sworn do depose and say that they were personally present and heard and saw David Buck, the testator within named sign by making his mark, seal publish and declare the within instrument in writing as and for his last will and testament, that at the time of so doing the testator was of sound and disposing mind, memory and understanding according to the best of siad deponents knowledge and beliefs and hat the same "Henry Deal" and "araham Shafer" (saw?) the hand writing of the the deponent--sworn and subscribed the 28th day of March 1816.

Coram T. Mann Register                                    Henry Deal

                                                                        Abraham Shafer

Be it remembered that on the 28th day of March A.D. 1816 Letter testamentary was granted to Peter Norgard(?) executor in the foregoing will named, he having been first duly affirmed according to law.”

Filed & Registered 28th March A.D. 1816.


Will of Thomas Buck – written 9 Feb. 1821.  Proved 7 Apr. 1821, in Hopewell Twp, Bedford Co., PA

I Thomas Buck of the Township of Hopewell in the County of Bedford, In State of Pennsylvania yeoman being of sound and disposing mind and memory knowing the uncertainty of life and that it is appointed for all men once to die do make and ordain this instrument in manner and form following that is to say I order all my just debts if any should be at my decease to be paid by my Executor herein after named

Item I give and bequeath to my daughter Sarah intermarried with William Akers the sum of one hundred pounds if living, if not her heirs or children to William Akers equally divided in full for her share of any estate.

Secondly I give and bequeath to my son David Buck my lands in the State of Ohio and all the property therein belonging to me if he is yet living if he comes to claim the same and if he is deceased to his son Thomas Buck you (“younger”???)

I give and bequeath to the heirs of my daughter Abigal deceased intermarried with Levi Jones one hundred pounds to be equally divided

I give and bequeath unto Richard P. Buck son of Richard Buck deceased the one half of all my lands in Hopewell Township Bedford County and State of Pennsylvania

I give and bequeath to Thomas Buck Jur the other one half of said lands and Thomas Buck Jur to pay Richard P. Buck fifty dollars to be paid out of my personal estate and my land in Hopewell Township to be rented (?) until the will sell for two thousand pounds in the first to be rented for three years and the tenant to have them first year for improving the place to be continued to be rented three years each time until sold and tenant to have one year of the place for repairs as aforesaid and when the rents are collected to be divided equally divided between Richard P. Buck and Thomas Buck Jur.

I desire that Richard P. Buck shall have all my outstanding debts and after paying my heirs equally to this my last will pay out the balance in land in eh State of Ohio and the land he purchases with my money not to have the privilege to sell until he is thirty five years of age

I desire that my personal property shall be sold and the money arising from the sale to pay my heirs as far as it will go.

I desire that four dictionaries to be divided Richard P. Buck and Thomas Buck Jur and the residue of all my books to Richard P. Buck.

I desire that Richard P. Buck shall have three doskin (doe skin) bottoms which all belonged to my son Richard and one large truck and all the wearing apparel and all military implements and all the personal property that did belong to Richard Buck his father.  And I do by these present nominate make ordain constitute and appoint John Piper Esquire Executor of this my last will and testament and giving to them all lawful power as executor should or of right ought to have in the premises.  In testimony whereof I the said Thos Buck have hereunto set my hand and seal this ninth day of February Anno Domino 1821

Signed Sealed Published and dictated by the testator Thomas Buck as and for his last will and testament in presence of us John Piper, David Wishart Char Hanna.

Thos Buck

Bedford County  Before me the Subscriber Register for the probate of wills and granting letters of administration in and for said county personally appeared John Piper Esquire and Doctor David Wishart two of the subscribing witnesses to the foregoing instrument of writing and being duly sworn according to law deponents say that they were personally present and saw Thomas Buck the Testator sign and heard him declare the foregoing instrument of writing to be his last will and testament and that at the time of doing thereof the said Thomas Buck was of sound and disposing mind memory and understanding according to best of Deponents knowledge and that Charles Hanna whose name appears as Subscriber as a witness also signed the same and that they together with the said James Hanna signed the same in presence of Testator and at his request.

Yeomen to and Subscribers John Piper

This 7th April 1821 David Wishard

Before me

Benjm  Burd (Burk?)

{Comments inside of parenthesis above, as well as the separation into paragraphs, were added by this transcriber and were not a part of the original will, which was virtually one long sentence with little punctuation.     Transcribed by Lionel Nebeker   10 Sep. 2007.}

{Note:  There has been a lot of work done to try to confirm just which Thomas Buck was the writer of this will.  After discovering the temple records from ordinances performed in the Endowment House in 1872 (see footnote [1] above) showing the marriage of our Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott to have occurred in 1738, it has become apparent that that man (probably born about 1712) would not have been the author of a will written in 1821, when he would have been about 109 years old.  Instead, we feel confident that this is the will of his son, Captain Thomas Buck, the older brother of our David Buck.  This man had three sons mentioned in his will: David; Thomas and Richard, who was deceased.  His presumed brother, David Buck (our ancestor) mentioned two living sons in his will (dates 1816) who were Thomas and David.  Clearly these two men were closely related, using the same given names for their sons.}


Tax List for Bedford Co., PA of 1817

Last Name            First Name                Township

Buck                        Thomas                    Hopewell twp

(This is the only Buck found in this list for Bedford Co., PA)


Last name            First name                page #            Township                 1820 US Census for Bedford Co., PA

Buck                        Daniel                         115               Franklin

Buck                        David                           82                Providence

Buck                        Joal                             90                Myalusin

Buck                        Matthew                     110                Athens

Buck                        Stephen                       93                Pike

Buck                        Thomas                       48                Hopewell

Buck                        William                        92                Pike

Buck                        William                        93                Pike

                                                                                                                     1820 US Census for Somerset Co., PA

Buck                        Caleb                         146                Quemahon

                                                                                                                     1820 US Census for Washington Co., PA

Buck                        Thomas                     170                Strabane  ***

Buck                        Willard                       184                Nottingham

1830 US Census for PA has no Thomas Buck in any county in the state.

1840 US Census for PA has no Thomas Buck in any county in the state.

***   Notes for Thomas Buck in Washington Co., PA in 1820: 

We have a marriage record for "Captain Thomas Buck" on 30 Dec. 1819 in Washington Co., PA and with

the designation of "Captain" it seemed logical that this might be our ancestor, the father of David Buck. 

He would have been about 80 yrs old in 1820 and could have been alive with a new wife.  The above census

shows the head of household to be 45 + years old, but the only female was 10-16 yrs old.  There are

also a number of younger children in the household.  If this is truly our 80 yr old Captain Thomas, then he

must have been raising some of his grandchildren. 

Name: David Buck         Township: Providence         County: Bedford             State: Pennsylvania

Source Citation: Year: 1820; Census Place: Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania; Roll: M33_98; Page: 82

In this 1820 U S Census with David Buck:

1 male 10-16;  Possibly David Jr. abt 1808

1 male 26-45;  Possibly David Sr. abt 1775, or earlier; they often got these categories wrong.

1 female under 10;  Possibly Mary abt 1812

2 females 16-26;  Possibly Elizabeth and Susannah EXCEPT THAT OUR ELIZABETH married David Garlick

                                in 1816, shown in this 1820 U S Census with him and their two oldest daughters.

1 female 45 and over;  Possibly Catherine abt 1774

Possibly the oldest son, Thomas, is no longer living at home

2 engaged in farming

Name: Thomas Buck         Township: Hopewell         County: Bedford         State: Pennsylvania

Source Citation: Year: 1820; Census.   Place: Hopewell, Bedford, Pennsylvania; Roll: M33_98; Page: 48;

In this 1820 U S Census for Thomas Buck:

1 male under 10.   (Thomas must have had posterity living with him)

1 male 10-16

1 male 18-26

1 male 45 and older.   (Probably Thomas, age 79, if he was 63 in 1814.)

1 female under 10

1 female 10-16

2 females 26-45.   (It looks like Thomas’ wife, Elizabeth, is deceased; if he’s 79, she’s got be over 45)


Misc census records on the Buck family decendents:

Question: Who are Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Blue (Blew)?

This Thomas is David Buck’s son:

He is in the 1850 and 1860 U S Census records in Van Buren, Pulaski, Indiana as follows:

Name: Thomas Buck Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1790 Birth Place: Pennsylvania Gender: Male

Home in 1850 (City, County, State): Van Buren, Pulaski, Indiana

Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Van Buren, Pulaski, Indiana; Roll: M432_166; Page: 347

In this 4 Sep 1850 U S Census: Home in 1850 (City, County, State): Van Buren, Pulaski, Indiana with

Thomas Buck, male, 60, birthplace Pennsylvania; Elizabeth, female, 63, birthplace Pa;

Next door or in the same house with Thomas and Elizabeth is the family of John Buck, male, 30,

born in Ohio; Elizabeth Ann, female, 27, born in Ohio; James Buck, m, 8, Indiana; Willis Buck, m, 6, Indiana;

John T. Buck, m, 4, Indiana; Felix Buck, m, 1, Indiana----Undoubtedly a son and his family.

Name: Thomas Buck Age in 1860: 72 Birth Year: abt 1788 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Home in 1860:

Van Buren, Pulaski, Indiana Gender: Male Post Office: Oak

Name: Elizabeth Buck Age in 1860: 73 Birth Year: abt 1787 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Home in 1860:

Van Buren, Pulaski, Indiana Gender: Female Post Office: Oak

Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Van Buren, Pulaski, Indiana; Roll: M653_290; Page: 970

In this 1860 U S Census, with Thomas Buck, male, 72, birthplace Pennsylvania;

Elizabeth Buck, female, 73, Pennsylvania

Here next, are the IGI Family History Library, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day

Saints Source Notes, now stored in my PAF file with reference numbers for Thomas’s

baptism.  Notice that the baptism was done on that now famous date, for us, 25 July 1872,

which is the same time as his sealing was done. See the transcription of sealing records I 

sent you on 9/18. Since he died in 1863, he was a prime candidate for his work to be done in 1872.

Thomas Buck; Male; Birth: About 1789 Of, , Bedford, Pennsylvania; Baptism: 25 JUL 1872;

Endowment: 21 JAN 1931 MANTI; Father: David Buck; Mother: Catherine Cashman;

Film Number: 170458 Page Number: 948 Reference number: 26097

Thomas Buck; Male; Birth: 1790 , Bedford, Pennsylvania; Death: 1863 , Pulaski, Indiana;

Spouse: Elizabeth Blue; Marriage: About 1810 Of, , Bedford, Pennsylvania

So, what do we have here? The Ohio connection, with Thomas’ son, John Buck, born

in Ohio and his wife, Elizabeth Ann, born in Ohio, living with Thomas and his wife,

Elizabeth Blue, in Indiana.

Referring to the transcribed sealing records I sent you on 9/18; it isn’t possible to photocopy

the sensitive, restricted, material in Special Collections. It’s strictly against policy. So I can’t

send you such a copy. We are only permitted to transcribe it by hand as I did.

Question: Who are David Buck and Charity Clark in the 24 July 1872 Endowment House


These are: David Buck Jr., born about 1800 in West Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania, son

of David Buck and Catherine Cashman—with his wife, Charity Clark, born about 1805 in

West Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania.

They re found in the 1850 U S Census:

Name: David Buck Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Birth Place: Pennsylvania Gender: Male

Home in 1850 (City, County, State): West Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania

Source Citation:  Year: 1850; Census Place: West Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania; Roll: M432_751;

Page: 107; Image: 215.

In this 3 Oct 1850 U S Census with David Buck, male, 50, Pennsylvania, are: Charity, female, 53, 

Pennsylvania; Catharine Buck, f, 19, Pa; Jonathan Buck, m, 16, Pa; Diana Buck, f, 12, Pa;

Mary Buck, f, 50, Pa; Sarah, f, 25, Pa

So our faithful Grandmother, Elizabeth Buck Garlic, did the sealings for her

grandparents, Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott, for her parents, David Buck and

Catherine Cashman, and for two deceased brothers and their  wives, Thomas and David, administered

by Joseph F. Smith, at that happy time of 24 and 25 July, 1872.

Gordon Bates


David Buck’s birth in 1757-60 — We do not have any actual document indicating for sure when David was born.  However, we know that he was old enough in 1779 to pay taxes for the 50 acres he owned in Colerain Twp that year [11] and consequently would have been a young man old enough to be independent.  We estimate from this that he would have been about 19-22 by then.  The following year, 1880-81, (when we estimate that he would have been about 20-23 years old) he enlisted in the PA Militia, for which service he was certified in 1781 [15].  It is possible that he could have been either younger or older and still serve in the military but being in his early 20’s certainly fits in the realm of “reasonableness”.  Then, in the 1784 tax list (when we estimate that he was about age 24-27) he was shown as being a “single freeman” so was not yet married at that time [19].  The next document found for him was the 1790 census, at which time he was back in Bedford Co., with a wife and a one year old son, Thomas [23].  This would seem to indicate that he was most likely married about 1787-88, or about when he was 27- 30 years old.  This is, in fact, a bit older than we would expect him to be when married, so we are not inclined to move his birth year to a date that would make him even older.  Additionally, he had a brother, Jonathan, whose birthdate is known (from his own family Bible) and who was born in 1755, so David would probably not have been born before 1757 at the earliest.  His birth could not be much later than this as he would not have owned land independently at an age much younger than 19.  This is a good estimate based upon documents found but nothing more specific has yet been located for determining his exact birth date. 


Below is a transcription of the ordinance work completed in the Endowment House in 1872 by Elizabeth Buck Garlick (daughter of David Buck and Catherine Cashman) assisted by two of her children.  Elizabeth did some of the work herself (at age 77) but her daughter, Hannah Garlick Shepherd also did much of the work for the females in the family.  Elizabeth’s son, Joseph Gaston Garlick performed the work on behalf of his deceased male relatives.  The column at the right is very important as it tells the relationship of the proxy worker to the person for whom the baptisms are being performed.  Sadly, birth dates and places were not given for any of these individuals.  {This transcription was made by Gordon Bates, another direct descendent in November of 2007 from the films indicated below.  These films are located on the second floor of the Family History Center in Salt Lake City, UT.}  A few errors have been noted in the “relation” of Joseph Garlick to the deceased persons.  Those include: two Thomas Bucks where Joseph is shown as “Nephew”.  One of these should say “great nephew” and be for the Captain Thomas Buck.  Similarly, he is shown as the “nephew” for two different “David Bucks”.  Clearly, he was the nephew of only one.  We suspect that the other may have been the son of Captain Thomas Buck and if so, then Joseph was actually a 1st cousin once removed from this man, but that involves our speculation. 

Aside from the above “errors” there are other items of interest to be pointed out.  The “Richard Buck” is correctly identified as a second cousin and this would be the “Richard P. Buck” listed in Captain Thomas Buck’s 1821 will as being his grandson.   Note the two “Bumgardner” men.  Joseph is shown correctly as a half-nephew to these men.  That is because his grandmother, Catherine Cashman, was previously married to a Mr. Bumgardner and by him had four children, two boys (John & Jacob, shown here) and two daughters (Barbara & Elizabeth, shown on the Female list as the next item below). 

This list is the only place we have been able to find any record of an “Ichabod Buck”.  Joseph is shown as a great nephew of this man, making Ichabod a son of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott.  We found absolutely no document at all for him in Bedford Co., or elsewhere.  But, based upon this list, it is obvious that there was such a man in the family.  He would have been an uncle to our Elizabeth who was there in the Endowment House while this work was being performed.  We did find another Ichabod Buck who lived in NE Pennsylvania (Luzerne and then Susquehanna Counties, in PA) but from his military papers (NY) he clearly stated that he was born in New Caanan, NY and his father was a Daniel Buck (thought to have come from Massachusetts). 

The James and John Buck, listed as cousins of Joseph, were probably the sons of his Uncle Thomas and Aunt Elizabeth Blue, but that has not been confirmed and needs more work. 

Two Fergusons are listed below.  The Thomas Ferguson (shown here as a cousin) was probably the husband of Elizabeth’s Aunt Massa Buck Ferguson, who married a Thomas Ferguson.  The man listed as Benjamin Ferguson, was probably Thomas and Massa’s son, and as such, he would be a first cousin to our Elizabeth, and technically a first cousin, once removed from Joseph G. Garlick.  But, in the 1800s they didn’t use that terminology and just referred to someone who was not exactly a “first cousin” as their “second cousin”.

This is the latest and final breakdown of Buck Male Endowment House Baptisms

25 July 1872

FHL Film # 183384 pp 396-396

Transcribed on 14 November 2007

Buck males and Related, baptisms---25 July 1872, Endowment House Transcript

Name of the Dead            When                   Name of Proxy       Relation                        (Comments by LN)

25 Jul 1872 S L C    Joseph Garlic

Thomas Buck                         “                              “                     Nephew                        {EBG’s oldest brother}

David Buck                             “                              “                     Nephew                        {David Jr., EBG’s brother}

Thomas Buck                         “                              “                     g Grandson

Ichabod Buck                         “                              “                     g Nephew

Thomas Buck                         “                              “                     Nephew                        {s/b: g nephew, Capt}

David Buck                             “                              “                     Grandson

David Buck                             “                              “                     Nephew                        {s/b second cousin}

Richard Back                          “                              “                    Second Cousin

John Bumgardner                  “                              “                    Half nephew

Jacob Bumgardner                “                              “                    Half nephew

James Buck                            “                              “                    Cousin

John Buck                               “                              “                    Cousin

Thomas Ferguson                  “                              “                    Cousin                            {s/b  2nd cousin}

Benjamin Ferguson                “                              “                   2nd cousin

Stephen Garlic                        “                              “                   Grandson

Adam Garlic                            “                               “                   Nephew

Jacob Garlic                            “                              “                    Nephew

John Garlic                              “                              “                   Cousin

Matthew Garlic                        “                              “                    Nephew

Abraham Garlic                       “                              “                    Nephew


{The list below was also transcribed by Gordon Bates in Nov. 2007 from a micro film of the actual Endowment House baptismal records.  Here we can see that Elizabeth Buck Garlick (Garlic) actually served as proxy for several of these names.  Her relationship to each one is given below.  Then, her daughter, Hannah, took a turn and served as proxy for the remainder.  Most of these are self-explanatory.  Of note though, is the fact that no work was done for Mary Buck, a sister of our Elizabeth Buck Garlick (who was clearly identified in their father’s 1816 will as his “youngest daughter”).  It is presumed that Mary was still living in 1872 and therefore could not have her baptismal ordinance performed at that time.}

Endowment House FEMALE Baptismal Transcript for 25 July, 1872 (Complete)

FHL film #183384 page 368  (This list transcribed 14 Nov 2007)

Heiress Proxy Elizabeth Buck Garlic

         is the daughter of Elizabeth Buck;                            {s/b Grand daughter}

EBG is the daughter of Catherine Cashman Buck;  

EBG is the half sister of Barbara Bumgardner;

EBG is the half sister of Elizabeth Bumgardner;

EBG is the friend of Mary Bumgardner;

EBG is the sister of Susannah Buck;

EBG is the sister in law of Elizabeth Buck;                        {Elizabeth Blue Buck}

EBG is the Aunt of Sarah Morris;

EBG is the niece of Massa Ferguson;

EBG is the cousin of another Massa Ferguson;

EBG is the niece of Elizabeth Castway;

EBG is the grand daughter of Agnes Cashman;

Proxy Hannah Garlic Shepard 

         is the niece of Ann Garlick:

HGS is the niece of Sarah Garlic;

HGS is the grand niece of Mary Cashman;

HGS is the grand niece of Elizabeth Cashman;

HGS is the second cousin of Susannah Cashman;

HGS is the second cousin of Mary Cashman;

HGS is the 2nd cousin of Elizabeth Cashman;

HGS is the cousin of Ruth Buck;

HGS is the cousin of Nancy Buck;

HGS is the cousin of Lucretia Buck;

HGS is the second cousin of Abigail Jones;

HGS is the 2nd cousin of Zellah Ferguson;

HGS is the grand daughter of Eve Garlic; 

HGS is the cousin of Diana Buck. 

FHL film #183384 page 396

Proxy Mary Jane Gillispie Garlic was proxy for

      Emmazella  Gillispie, and for

      Catherine Gillispie

Note further tracking: The second cousin of Hannah Garlic Shepard was Zellah Ferguson, as shown above on the next to the last line. I've looked her up in Family Search and found that she is the daughter of Thomas Fergusen and Massa Buck Fergusen, born about 1800.  This Thomas and Massa Buck had children as follows: Benjamin Fergusen, abt 1796; Thomas Fergusen Jr. abt 1798; Zella Fergusen abt1800 and Massa Fergusen abt 1802. The relative proxy putting this together was a Sabra J. B. Hatch.

Note:  Items in { } above are added comments of Lionel Nebeker.


Below are the records of the sealings of deceased couples (husbands to wives) that were performed in the Endowment House by Elizabeth Buck Garlick and her children. 

Endowment House Sealing Transcript,  24 July 1872   Joseph F. Smith, Sealer

FHL film # 0183398 page 217

Joseph Garlic, heir, (born)  2 May 1827, Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania

Eliazabeth Buck Garlic, heiress proxy, (born)  2 May 1795

2764     David Buck             dead

Catharin Cashman              dead

2765     Thomas Buck         dead

Elizabeth Scott                   dead

2766     Thomas Buck        dead

Elizabeth Blew                   dead

2767     David Buck            dead

Charity Clark                      dead

Joseph Garlic, heir, (born) 2 May 1827, Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania

Hannah Garlic Shepard, (born)  1 June 1818, Providence, Bedford Pennsylvania

2768     Joseph Garlic          dead

Eve Clouny                          dead

2769     Adam Garlic            dead

Sarah, his wife                     dead

A careful perusal of this transcript should be helpful.  Notice Hannah Garlic Shepard’s birth date.  She was the first born of David Gaston Garlic and Elizabeth Buck Garlic, the oldest sister of Joseph Gaston Garlic.    {Collected and transcribed by Gordon Bates}




Dear Gordon,

I just received a copy of the will of Mary Buck (sister of EBG).  It was dated on 15 Apr. 1879 in West Providence, Bedford Co., PA.  Notice that this was after the 1872 EH temple ordinances, hence those were not performed at that time for this woman.  The will was proved in August 1879, after her death (12 July 1879 in West Providence). 


In her will, she gives all of her property to her "Grand dotter" Diana E. Foor" as her only heir.  Remember that in the 1860 PA census, we found this Mary Buck living with a family where the head of the family was "Jacob I. Foor" who at that time had no wife, but had two young daughters: Diana Foor (age 6, so born about 1854) and Mary C. Foor (age 4, so born about 1856).   Since our Mary Buck was living with them, we speculated that this might be her son-in-law and that she had moved in to help raise her granddaughters if her own daughter had recently died.  Well, it appears that speculation was right, as in her will she specifically mentions that Diana E. Foor is her grand daughter.  I suspect that her only other granddaughter, Mary C. Foor, probably died before the 1879 will and without issue. 


Remember too, that in the 1850 PA census, Mary was living with her brother, David and had a 25 year old woman, named Sarah Buck, who was listed right below Mary Buck's name and would have surely been her own daughter, the future wife of Jacob I. Foor. 


I hate to cast any aspersions on the Mary Buck, but throughout her entire life, and including in her will, she always used the surname of "Buck" and never anything else (not "Jones").  Her 25 year-old daughter (in the 1850 census) also went by the name of Sarah Buck prior to her marriage to Jacob I. Foor.


Thought you'd find that interesting and it helps us pull Mary's family together.

Lionel Nebeker 


The following additions have been included to help the reader gain a greater perspective beyond that provided from the original source documents covered in the basic chapter above.  These items will help to cover, and clarify, important points to help confirm the presentation of our family.  Below is an index to these additional items.

Appendix A -- Reconciliation of the various LDS Ancestral File & IGI submissions for the family of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott

Appendix B – JGG’s “One Family Group Record” for Thomas and Elizabeth Buck

           Appendix C – JGG’s “One Family Group Record” for David and Catherine Buck

           Appendix D – Background on ordinances performed in the Endowment House

           Appendix E – JGG’s Temple Index Bureau (TIB) cards

           Appendix F – Response to the information on the TIB cards

           Appendix G – Personal history of David Garlick and Elizabeth Buck

           Appendix H – Photos of Elizabeth Buck Garlick and Susannah Garlick Wakefield

           Appendix I -- Life of Talitha Cumi Garlick, Mormon Pioneer and Woman of Faith

           Appendix J – Letters from Jonathan Buck, nephew of Elizabeth Buck Garlick.

           Appendix K -- Letter from Lionel Nebeker to Gordon Bates regarding Nauvoo Baptismal records

Appendix A:        Reconciliation of the various LDS Ancestral File & IGI submissions for the family of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott

There are currently more submissions for this family in the LDS Ancestral File and/or IGI (International Genealogical Index) than one cares to review.  Many of these show the couple to have originated in Connecticut and then to have ended up in Bedford Co., PA.  It is obvious that very little original genealogical research has been done on this family but rather, many people have merely copied the erroneous information they found in the Ancestral File and IGI and resubmitted it all over again.  These records contain numerous conflicts and contradictions and it is easy to see that much of it is incorrect.

Most of these submissions however, seem to center around two basic presentations of the family of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott.  One group (we’ll refer to this as option A) seems to indicate that Thomas was born in Connecticut somewhere between 1708-15, typically the year 1712 is given.  Elizabeth Scott is also shown as originating in Connecticut and usually has a birth year around 1717.  Both persons are usually shown as ending up in Bedford Co. PA.  They are often shown with a marriage date of 4 May 1738 in either Litchfield, Litchfield Co., CT; or on the same day but in Glastonbury, Hartford Co., CT.

Option B shows the same names for this married couple, Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott, but it shows them as being born around 1740 for Thomas, and 1740-45 for  Elizabeth.  Most of these records style them as being “of Bedford Co., PA”.   Their marriage date is usually given as being about 1758 (but this may swing forward or backward by a few years) and is often shown as “of Bedford Co., PA”.  Since Bedford County had virtually no white residents in those early years, we know this is not where they were born, or married—but rather it is an indication, by the submitter, that they lived there at some time during their lives.

The first point that needs to be made is that nothing in the Ancestral File, or IGI, is an

“original source document”.   Nor do most of the submissions provide any indication of the sources for their information.  It may technically be possible that the two couples presented in these options are, in fact, two separate couples who just happen to have the exact same names, but that does not seem to be the likely case.  It is more probable that this is the same couple but with at least one of these options being totally incorrect as to the dates shown. 

In our presentation (above) we have primarily ignored all of the submissions to the Ancestral File and to the IGI.  Instead, we have tried to focus almost entirely on original source documents found in Bedford County, PA and other nearby locales that deal with the family of our Thomas and Elizabeth.  Now, after presenting our findings, it seems appropriate to compare those with the various submissions to the LDS Ancestral File to see if we have a match with any of those family groups, and to eliminate as many incorrect versions of our family as may be possible.  We have found that the documents cited in our presentation most closely align with the Option A mentioned above, but we have an obligation, before proceeding further, to compare it to Option B to see if that might actually be a better fit. 

We feel that we have weighed and compared that evidence, and rather than to restate it here all over again, we will refer the reader to some additional items in Appendices B – F (below).  These items present the information behind the submissions of so many family members who previously relied on Option B material to send their data to the temples for ordinance work, and upon which so many subsequent family members have depended.  This was started by Elizabeth Buck Garlick, who, with her grown children, Hannah Buck Shepherd and Joseph G. Garlick, went to the Endowment House in Salt Lake in 1872 and began doing temple ordinances on behalf of her deceased ancestors and family members.  In this work, she needed to only submit the names of these persons but not their dates of birth—see a summary of those ordinances provided in the footnotes to this chapter given above [36, 37, & 38].

Subsequent to her service, one of her descendants followed up in an attempt to complete the temple ordinances for these individuals.  Most of that work (endowments and sealings of children to parents) was completed many years after the death of Elizabeth and even after the deaths of her children (Joseph G. Garlick died in 1915).  The well intentioned descendent who sought to complete these ordinances did so without any firsthand knowledge of the persons for whom he was doing the work.   We do not know the identity of our relative who wanted to do this work but we have elected to refer to him/her by the appellation of “JGG”.   We do so because this person (probably a son or daughter of Joseph G. Garlick) submitted that work in Joseph’s name, but did so about fifteen years after the death of that good man.  As such, they were trying to do the best they could, using his collected information and giving Joseph the “honor” but at the same time, making many errors in his name.

The original work performed in the Endowment House did not require that the proxies provide the birth dates or places for the deceased persons.  However, fifty plus years later, when the remaining ordinances were submitted, a birthdate was required before that work could be performed.  Without any knowledge of the birth dates of those ancestors, the submitter (JGG) did the best job he could at guessing at what might have been the actual dates.  After all, when JGG realized that he could not find the specific birth dates then it was felt it was better to estimate the dates and proceed than to not complete the ordinances at all.

With that being the case, dates were obviously incorrectly estimated.  Some were then altered by either the original submitter or some other persons.  Consequently, we now have most of the ordinances completed based upon “Option B”.  However, it is very clear from the temple records themselves, even without looking at the other source documents, that these dates do not fit together for the various family members, meaning that the dates for Option B are definitely incorrect, as will be shown in appendices B – F.

In fairness, we must admit that we still don’t have original source documents for the actual births of most of the people we are talking about.  We have not found anything like church records of christenings, baptisms, or marriages that would be very helpful.  However, we have found a surprising number of documents (per the presentation given in this chapter above) that help to assemble the family of Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck.  The documents found seem to further eliminate Option B as a possible scenario for our family.  Just to recap a few of those critical items:

1)See the list of children of the different “Thomas Bucks” in the column shown in Appendix F and the discussion in that section that explains it.

2)The family Bible of Jonathan Buck (which record the submitters of the temple ordinance work would not have had) specifically lists his own birthdate as 12 Jan. 1755, making it virtually impossible for him to be the child of a couple where the father was born in 1740 and the mother in 1745 (age 10).  And, this Jonathan does not appear to be the oldest child in the family, but rather toward the middle.

3)There was a “Thomas Buck” who was born in 1740—(the “Captain Thomas Buck”) who lived long enough to write his will in 1821 naming his children.  Those names do not match the names included as children of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott.  But there are some names mentioned in that will that are included in Elizabeth Buck’s 1872 Endowment House ordinances and listed as “cousins” (not Aunts and Uncles).  The point here is that the Thomas who was born in 1740 (Captain Thomas Buck) was not the same man who was married to Elizabeth Scott and the father of their children.  Instead, he is the most likely candidate to be their oldest child.

4)John Buck Sr. was another of the Buck boys living adjacent to our David Buck in Colerain Township of Bedford Co. in the 1770s.  This man (who was obviously closely related, not only to our David, but he was also in close association with Joseph and Jonathan, who were in turn closely associated with our David and with the Captain Thomas Buck) was old enough to have a son, John Jr. (and probably also another son named William) who were old enough, in 1785, to own land of their own and pay taxes on it.  That would seem to indicate these young men, John Jr. and William were probably born about 1763-65; and that their father, John Sr. would have been born by about 1742.  (Since we already know that Captain Thomas Buck was born about 1740, we feel inclined to estimate John Sr.’s birth to be after that, and therefore at about 1742.)

5)David Buck (our direct ancestor) owned land in Colerain Twp of Bedford Co., PA (50 acres) by 1779.  If he was at least 19 (probably 19-22) years old at this time then he still would have been born by, or before, 1760.  The following year (1780) he was old enough to serve in the Revolutionary War as a part of the PA Militia.   While it could technically be possible for him to have a father who was born in 1740, his very close association with John Sr., and Jonathan make it a sure bet that he was their brother and also then a brother of Captain Thomas Buck who could not have been old enough to be the father of all these other Buck men.  Additionally, David’s land ownership records, in the very near proximity to these other Buck men, and most of them near to each other, leads us to believe there was a close brotherly relationship between all of them.

6)The temple records indicate that our Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott Buck were the parents of a: Thomas, Jonathan, David, and Ichabod, along with daughters: Massa and Elizabeth.  We were not able to find any references to the names of their daughters but the gaps between the son’s ages led us to believe that there were daughters, or children who died young.  The boys in this family fit well with those found in the original source documents we have found (as enumerated in the notes above) with the exception that the temple records do not mentioning either John Sr. or Joseph.  Still, we feel the match between these two lists is strong.

In summary, there was just not enough time for a couple, born in 1740 &1745, to have had that many sons by, or before 1760.  All of the Option B submittals to the Ancestral File and IGI seem to be base upon obviously faulty speculation submitted by the JGG source (and which we will include below in appendices B - F.  None of the Option B material is based upon any ‘original source documents’ (other than David Buck’s will).  Instead it is based purely on estimations of birth years, which have in turn been perpetuated by many, many persons without researching these inaccuracies.  But somehow, its enduring age has given it credibility beyond its deserts. 

Based upon the documents we have found and supplied, we feel confident that our Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott were not born any time around 1740, but much earlier.  It is a likely that the marriage record shown for them in the Endowment House records as “4 May 1738” is truly correct.  A list of their children then, would include each of those we presented in the above material, most of which were corroborated by the endowment house records, as far as their names are concerned.  The names submitted many years ago for temple ordinances, and performed around 1928-31 (referred to as Option B), contains a relatively reasonable match for most of the names of our Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck, but it is the estimated dates that are incorrect.

We feel inclined to augment our list of the sons found in Bedford Co., PA with the additional name of Ichabod Buck, as well as the two daughters listed in the Endowment House records, Elizabeth Buck and Massa Buck, all of which were submitted by David Buck’s daughter, Elizabeth Buck Garlick (niece of those persons).

With that conclusion, we offer our thoughts as to the correct version of this family in Appendix J, at the end of this writing.  This still may not be totally accurate as we hope still to find additional sources for yet unknown information, but we believe it is on the right track, and the best conclusion available at this time.  Additionally, we feel we should help others to steer away from those previous submissions that try to connect our David Buck as the son of the Thomas Buck born in 1740.

In order to better address the incorrect information previously submitted for temple work by many persons who merely copied it from the “Option B” records, we will first provide that data in the following appendices.  It will be followed by a discussion of the various items showing the inconsistencies, speculations, errors and other general observations about the forms submitted.

Appendix B:      The “One Family Group Record” for Thomas Buck

Observations from the “One Family Group Record” for Thomas & Elizabeth Buck

1.Date completed—this is not given but it does indicate that some of the Endowment ordinances for these children were done in 1929, meaning that this form was completed sometime after that date and well after the deaths of anyone listed on this page.

2.Residence of father—a note here states that Thomas Buck was “Legendary in family emigrated from Holland”.  We know this comment is incorrectly applied here.  The person believed to have emigrated from Holland was his daughter-in-law, Catherine Cashman.

3. Birth of father—record says “abt 1740, of Bedford Co., PA.”  This is an estimate of the birth by the submitter and shows uncertainty.

4.His father’s name—this is obviously not completed but this space was used to identify the relationship of Thomas Buck as the great grandfather of Joseph G. Garlick, who is then identified as his “heir” (direct descendent).  This is correct.  However, Joseph G. Garlick died in 1915 (at least 14 years prior to the completion of this page, so he personally did not create this document, although he may have started it (or one like it) which then was probably completed by one of his children, or other relative many years later.

5.Baptized: 25 July 1872 in the Endowment House.  This is also correct and we have seen this entry in the EH Records.  The Endowment date was left blank.

6.Source of information—The only source listed is the Endowment House Transcript.  There is no indication whatsoever of any other sources for anything on this page.  We have found, in the Endowment House archives, records substantiating the list of the children shown on this page.

7.Elizabeth Scott is shown as the mother, which matches our other records

8.Her birth—estimated as “abt 1742”.  No indication given other than estimation.

9.Her baptism and sealing to husband were both performed in the Endowment House on 25 & 24 July 1872.  This work was done by her granddaughter, Elizabeth Buck Garlick and some of her children.

10.Her Endowment date—This was done on 7 May 1928 in the Salt Lake Temple.

11.Children—The list of the children seems to be rather specific and must have come from some other document, or personal knowledge of someone.  The dates of birth however, are all estimated without any clear knowledge of when any one of them, including the direct ancestor David, was born.  Each child is listed as being “of Bedford, PA” so it is not clear where they were born.  Thomas Jr. and David are listed as the two oldest with all of the children being spaced out with approximately two-year intervals.

12.Baptisms of children—all of the children were baptized in the Endowment House on the same day, 25 July 1872, with the exception of Jonathan Buck, listed last, who was baptized on 12 Apr. 1892 (20 years later) in “MT” (Manti Temple).  Why was he added last, and added at the end of the list, and why was his baptism not done at the time of the others? 

13.Endowment dates of children—Dates appear for only 4 of the 7 children on the list.  Why?  Those four were all endowed in June of 1928 or 29.

14.None of the children were yet sealed to their parents.  {The ordinance of sealing children to their parents was not performed in the Endowment House but had to wait until a temple was built and dedicated.}

15.Spouses were shown for four of the children: Thomas Jr. David, Massa, Elizabeth.  Note that the wife of Thomas Jr. is shown as “Elizabeth Blue or Blew”.  This is the same name as the wife of Thomas Buck, the son of David Buck.  It seems that there is a possibility of this woman being incorrectly shown on this page as being married to the wrong Thomas Buck (the uncle of her actual husband).  We do not know the name of the wife of this Thomas Jr.  However, we are certain (from 1850 & 1860 Indiana Census, as well as the Blue family genealogy in the IGI, and from the sealings that Elizabeth Buck Garlick performed for her own brother and his wife in the Endowment House in 1872) that the wife of the other “Thomas Buck” (this man’s nephew, the son of our David Buck) was a woman named Elizabeth Blue.  Whether this man (the child listed first on this page) also married a woman by the very same name, or whether this is an error by the compiler, is not known.

16.It is apparent that this document is merely a collection of data gleaned from the Endowment House records and did not have any original source documents behind it.  The names appear to be specific and probably correct in most cases, but all of the birth dates are simple estimates without any basis.  In comparing this page to the actual transcripts from the Endowment House records, it is also very clear that several errors were made in compiling this sheet.

17.There is a daughter, “Sarah” listed here.  However, in reviewing the actual transcripts from the Endowment House ordinances, there was no listing for a Sarah as a daughter of this family.  This person was a cousin and was incorrectly assigned as a daughter to this family.  Her name should be deleted from this form.

Appendix C:       The “One Family Group Record” for David Buck

Observations on the Family Group Record for David & Catherine Buck

1.  It is not clear who the submitter was for this page (but it was surely the same JGG discussed previously).  The note at the top indicates (incorrectly) that the “Husband” on this page was a “gt gd father of Jos. G. Garlick (Heir) Buck Line”.  But the husband (David Buck) was actually the Grand father of Jos. G. Garlick.  It is clear though, that Joseph was not the submitter of this page.  He died in 1915 and this page shows later dates on the form.

2.  It was submitted sometime after 1929 (see End. Date for husband)

3.  The submitter didn't have "first-hand" knowledge of most of the individuals listed.

4.  He received his information from the "End. House Transcript".  No other source was mentioned, and there is no evidence that any other source was used.

5.  He made original entries on the sheet, and then subsequently came back to add additional info (e. g. "or Mary" inserted between Catherine and Cashman; "Gaston" inserted between David and Garlick.  Where did that information come from?

6.  Dates of birth for the children are estimated ("abt") other than for Elizabeth.  He shows David Jr. born abt. 1787 (and from the 1850 census record, it appears he was really born in 1800—a difference of 13 years).   Susannah is shown as being born "abt 1793" and before Elizabeth.  We know from David's 1816 will that Elizabeth was the oldest living daughter and Susannah second, so this date is an error—should be 1797-98.

7.  This lists a son "Richard" which is incorrect.  The submitter would not have personally known this Richard.  If he got his information, or at least most of it, from the Endowment House transcript, then there was only one “Richard” listed there and he is clearly shown as a “2nd cousin” of Joseph G. Garlick, and not as an uncle.  

8.  It does appear from this that it was, in deed, this David Jr. who married Charity Clark, but there is no mention of Elizabeth Blue for his brother Thomas, and that entry was in the same Endowment House record with David Jr's.  (Note that an Elizabeth Blue was also shown as the wife of this Thomas’s uncle, another Thomas Buck, on the One Family Group Record of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott, and she was additionally listed as the wife of “Ichabod Buck” in another place.  Those entries are probably incorrect as an Elizabeth Blue was married to the Thomas Buck listed on this page, the son of David Buck and Catherine Cashman, and we know of no other Elizabeth Blue.)

9.  This clearly states that Catherine "emigrated direct from Holland".  This is consistent with the 1880 US Census for Utah listing Elizabeth Garlick in Springville, UT [2].

10.  It also clearly states that Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott were the parents of our David, thus eliminating the speculation about whether there might be another generation between these two.

11. There is the noticeable absence of the youngest daughter, Mary.  {However, it could be that she was still alive in 1872 and therefore was not able to have her work done at the same time as her other siblings, and in consequence of that be missing from this list, which derived most of its information from the 1872 EH Transcripts.}

12.  There are specific dates for the baptisms of each of these children, including Richard--25 July 1872 (same date as all of the others, except for Elizabeth who had her own baptism earlier than that). 

13.  There is a note that the mother, Catherine Cashman Buck was married to another husband—John Bumgartner.  There is a note by this that says: “prob” (probably) which we take to mean that his given name was probably “John” but there remains some uncertainty about that.  {A quick review was made of the various census records of Bedford County, PA for 1780 (tax), 1790, 1800, 1810, 1820, 1830 & 1840 for any names located in that county that started with BAM, BAUM, or BUM…  None were found for any of these years with the exception of 1810 US Census that contained a: “Jno. Bumgardner” who at that time was living in Bedford Twp of Bedford Co., PA.  There is no indication of this man’s connection to our Catherine Cashman Buck, but we suspect this was Catherine’s oldest son by her first husband.  We have found a reference to a “John Bumbgardner” (sic) and also a “Michael Bumgardner” in the Frederick Co., MD census in 1790.  This was just after Catherine’s marriage to our David Buck, so this would not be the same man as our presumed deceased husband of Catherine, but may indicate the area from which his family came.  This county in Maryland was adjacent to Adams County, PA, where we find the names of two Cashman men in 1790—Christopher and Jacob.  This may provide us with a hint as to where our Catherine Cashman was living when she met and married David Buck.}  [Update:  We have now found a mention of the marriage of a Catherine Kirschman to an Adam Bumgardner in 1769 in York Co., PA.  Our direct ancestor, Catherine Kirschman/Cashman, was the only known single female in the entire state of Pennsylvania at that time.  She would have been 17 years old and the family lived in that area at that time.  Surely her husband was “Adam Bumgardner”—although it is very possible it could have been either Johann Adam, or Adam Johann.  For more on this marriage, see the documentation for the Kirschman/Cashman family.]

14.  There is a note behind the name of the son, Thomas, that says “3rd”.  We’re not certain what this means.  We have some potential theories but cannot be sure at this time.  It was a note by the submitter and not a part of his legal name. 

15. There is a note for Elizabeth Buck’s ordinance work that confirms that she did her own work for these ordinances--“self”.   This matches what we found in the Endowment House records. 

16.  On the copy of the One Family Group Record shown above, one cannot read the names of the parents of the “Wife” Catherine Cashman.  However, on the actual form, it lists these parents as: Martin Cashman and Agnes _______.  These names are very light and did not copy onto this exhibit.  We do not know where the submitter got that information.  Presumably, if all the other information here came from the Endowment House Transcript then this information may also be contained there.  In our search of the EH Transcript we found the ordinances performed for Agnes Cashman, grandmother of our Elizabeth Buck, but we did not find any reference to her husband, or anyone by the name of Martin Cashman.  More work needs to be done to trace that name back to this family.  However, there was a family group sheet in the Ancestral File for a Martin Cashman and Agnes Schwartz along with a single daughter named Mary Cashman from Franklin Co., VA.  We have not had an opportunity yet to pursue this lead and are uncertain of the source for this information.  Still, it may provide us with a possible hint for future research of our Cashman family. 

So, what does all this mean?  It indicates that “JGG” did not have direct personal knowledge of any of these individuals other than perhaps early memories of his grandmother, Elizabeth Buck Garlick.  He may have had some family notes left from Joseph G. Garlick.  The only source cited was the Endowment House transcript.  Still, all things considered, it is a great find.  We’re still bewildered though, that the name of Catherine Cashman's father has never shown up in any of these old records.  We would have thought that Elizabeth Buck Garlick should have known his name and would have submitted it for proxy work at that same time.


Appendix D:       Ordinance work performed in the Endowment House

The Endowment House was a temporary structure build on the NW corner of Temple Square, in which many sacred ordinances were performed while the Church did not have a temple available for their use.  The ordinances performed there consisted of all necessary temple ordinances for the living (except sealing to deceased parents); but for the dead, the only ordinances were: baptisms and sealing of husbands to wives.  There were no endowment ordinances performed for the dead, nor could children be sealed to their parents at that time.  That explains why Elizabeth Buck and her children after traveling to the Endowment House in Salt Lake, from Springville, UT, performed the baptisms and the sealings of spouses in their work in 1872, but did not perform any Endowments for the dead, nor were they able to seal any children to their parents.  Those ordinances had to wait until a temple was constructed.  Some of those were performed at later dates in Manti, Salt Lake and Logan.

Mormons did not consider the Endowment House a temple, so they did not perform all temple ordinances in it.  Brigham Young explained,  “We can, at the present time [1874], go into the Endowment House and be baptized for our dead, receive our washings and anointings, etc....We also have the privilege of sealing women to men without a Temple....but when we come to other sealing ordinances, ordinances pertaining to the holy Priesthood, to connect the chain of the Priesthood from father Adam until now, by sealing children to their parents, being sealed for our forefathers, etc., they cannot be done without a temple” (Journal of Discourses, 16:185).  Hence, there were no sealing of children nor endowments for the dead performed in the Endowment House.  These ordinances were first administered in Utah’s first temple, the St. George Utah Temple, in 1877.     [From the Internet, Google: “Endowment House”.]

Appendix E:       Buck TIB Cards of Joseph G. Garlick

The Temple Index Bureau (TIB) was a precursor to the current International Genealogical Index (IGI).  This is a record of the temple ordinance work performed on behalf of the deceased ancestors of LDS Church members.  The cards presented below should not be considered as “original source documents” proving confirmed family relationship or correct dates, etc.  But rather, it is a summary of temple ordinances performed based upon the assumption that the submitter “knew” their family information was correct and presentable for the ordinance work to be completed.  Sadly, the Church has found that way too many of these submissions were inaccurate guesses and consequently, much of this work needs to be straightened out.  Still, this presents us with some information that earlier members of our family submitted as being their best guess about our Buck family connections.  (See notes following these cards.) 

Appendix F:       A Response to the TIB Cards of Joseph G. Garlick

Excerpts from a letter from Lionel Nebeker to Gordon Bates (31 Oct. 2007).  In this document the initials “JGG” will appear often.  This is a designation used throughout this letter to represent the unknown submitter of these cards, presumed to be a son or daughter of Joseph G. Garlick, who, in turn, was the son of Elizabeth Buck Garlick.

Gordon, … in light of these TIB cards, I have been rethinking our position.  I started with "our David Buck" (the father of Elizabeth Buck Garlick).  JGG originally said he was born "abt 1760" but then, rather consistently, amended those dates to "abt 1765".  He noted (on his One Family Group Record) next to this later date, that it was a "better" fit for David.  Okay, let's compare that to the documents we found in Bedford Co.  The first thing we found for him was his ownership of land (50 acres in Colerain Twp, Bedford Co) in 1779.  If born in 1765, then he would have been just 14 years old at the time he was assessed a tax for this owned land.  Next, sometime in 1780-81 (when age 15-16) he enlisted in the PA Militia.  That is a bit younger than we would expect but is within the realm of possibility in those days so we won’t discredit this. 

In 1779 (when David was about 14) his presumed father, Thomas Buck (the man shown here as being born in 1740) moved away from him and took up new lands in Hopewell Twp where he owned land for most of the rest of his life.  Why would he leave such a young son (age 14) back in Colerain on a piece of property by himself?  The following year, 1780, David, now just 15, was still on that parcel and Thomas was still in Hopewell.  In 1784, David packed up and sold his land.  But, instead of moving to Hopewell, where his “father” was still buying available parcels of land throughout the 1780s and 1790s, David moved with his “Uncle” Jonathan, to Providence Twp and lived near him.  It would seem that a young man (who is still single and without the direct support of a wife) would be more inclined to move closer to where his father is than to move next to an uncle.  All of these "could" happen, but it doesn't feel like how you would expect a family to behave.  We find ourselves having to explain the puzzle pieces, rather than finding them fitting into the puzzle nicely. 


Okay, next let's follow Thomas Buck (and let’s assume he was born about 1740) and Elizabeth Scott (assume she was born in about 1745).  Whether he was the Thomas who was in Colerain Twp in 1775-76 or not, we do not know, and we can still speculate, that that may well have been his father (another Thomas Buck).  But, we do know that the 1740 Thomas Buck (who we refer to as "Captain" and who served in the PA Militia from 1777-1780; and again in 1784-85) was the one who paid taxes for land owned in Hopewell Twp by 1779, and maybe earlier.  This Thomas probably started having children by the mid 1760s and so the assumed dates estimated by JGG could work there, and that is surely why JGG said it was a “better fit” to shift his birth year to back to 1765.  It is not correct but shows a juggling of dates in an attempt to just put families together in some manner without clear knowledge or documentation of any kind.  

However, we have the 1821 will for this man (the 1740 Thomas Buck) and the children listed in it do not match those who JGG shows in the temple records.  In the exhibit below, let us first outline (in the left column) the names of those children who our research had previously suggested were contained in the family of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott.  In the middle column, let's list the names of the children who were found in this family according to the temple records submitted by Elizabeth Buck Garlick.  In the third column, we will list the children named in the 1821 will of Captain Thomas Buck (b. 1740).  We will list these children without regard to any dates assumed by anyone.  We're just looking to see how well these family names fit together.   

{* Note: Massa & Sarah are found on the Thomas and Elizabeth Scott Buck “One Family Group Record”, which was completed many years later, but not yet on any of the TIB cards shown above.  Elizabeth and Massa were the only two found on the EH Baptisms, where their work was performed by our Elizabeth Buck Garlick listing herself as their “niece”, but no such entry exists for a “Sarah” Buck for this family.  Therefore we are not including her in our final version of the Family Group Record for this family.}

Note how well the temple (or rather JGG’s) records (shown in the middle column) for a Thomas Buck who was supposed to have been born about 1740, line up with the children of the Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott (in the left column) we have presented in Chapter 1 of the Bucks of Bedford Co.  Our research however, shows this couple as being born about 1712 & 1717 (we have not yet had the time to try to research their births).  JGG has the specific names of daughters: Elizabeth and Massa, who we suspected might exist, but whose names we did not have.  He also incorrectly listed a “Sarah”, but, as mentioned above, we do not find any such name as an Aunt for our Elizabeth B. Garlick.  At the same time, he does not have any listing for a John or Joseph Buck.  Otherwise the lists have some striking similarities. 

Let’s talk a bit about John and Joseph Buck.  Both of these men lived in Bedford Co. but not at any time did they live in Providence Twp, near where our Elizabeth Buck Garlick grew up.  John is found in Colerain (with David) and then he moved southwest to Cumberland Valley Twp with Joseph (after their return from the War) and then both of them moved westward to Quemahoning Twp in what later became Somerset Co., before again moving away from the area entirely between 1790-93, not to be heard of again in PA.  Elizabeth was not born until 1795 so, as far as we know, she never would have known these men personally.  However, she would have personally known (and remembered) her Uncle Thomas (in Hopewell) and perhaps her Uncle Ichabod, and Aunt Elizabeth (Castway) if they remained in that area.  Her Uncle Jonathan also left Bedford Co., before she was born, but she would have remembered that she had such an uncle since he had previously lived right next to them, and as she grew up she probably heard constant reminders whenever they stepped outside of their home,  “Oh, that house over there use to be Uncle Jonathan’s….” 

{To “Mormons” it seems inconceivable that a person would not have intimate knowledge of their Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, etc.  But outside of the church, that is not the case.  My own mother-in-law knew her father well, and she was a grown and married woman when he died, yet neither she, nor any of her sisters, EVER ONCE asked him about his parents.  They never had any idea whether he had any siblings, or what the names of his parents might have been.  The topic just never came up.  And since they didn’t live anywhere close to extended family they just plain had no idea of any family connections, nor did they care to ask.  So too, it is possible that Elizabeth Buck Garlick would not have known two of her uncles whom she never met (i. e. John & Joseph).  By the time she joined the church and began thinking about genealogy, she was probably in Nauvoo, or Utah and didn’t have a good opportunity to ask about extended family as that generation had pretty much passed away and she was the only member of her family to migrate to Utah.  Otherwise, the temple records are rather harmonious with what we found in our genealogical research of local documents. }

Now, let’s compare this same temple list, which shows the father, Thomas Buck (Elizabeth Scott’s husband) as being born in 1740 (column 2), with the list of the children of Thomas Buck (Capt) who we are confident was actually born right about 1740 (shown in the third column above) and whose 1821 will we have in our possession.  There is a match here with the names of Thomas and David (but then those names show up in just about every Buck family of that generation, and their descendants, and we believe that the “Sarah” shown in the middle column is incorrect, which means there are only two matches).  The temple records list a Jonathan, Ichabod, Elizabeth, and Massa that were left out of the 1821 will; and that will lists Richard and Abigal who do not show up in the Temple records.  To me, this appears to be a mismatch.  Rarely would any father leave so many of his children out of his will, especially when he goes to the trouble of mentioning his deceased children. 

In summary, the temple ordinance records (submitted by Elizabeth Buck, and performed in part by her, her son, and her daughter) appear to be a reasonable match of the family that we say (through our research of the original Bedford Co., source documents) belonged to Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott.  But, those same temple records do not appear to be the same family as is listed in the 1821 will of Captain Thomas Buck of Bedford Co. PA. 

Now then, is it possible that the 1821 will might be for some other Thomas Buck, other than the “Captain” who was born in 1740?  Well, that is a fair question.  But, we know (from the 1814 tax list) that the Captain Thomas of Hopewell, was 73 years old then, meaning that he was born in 1740-41.  We also know from the 1821 will that he had a daughter named Abigal, who married a Levi Jones.  They met and married in Bedford Co. (where they were listed in the 1800 census with 3 young boys and 1 young daughter at that time) and that his presumed father, another Levi Jones, over age 45, was listed as living all alone in Washington Co.  Then, in the 1810 census, the older Levi was gone from Washington Co (presumably dead) and the younger one was still living in Bedford Co.  But, he probably inherited his father’s lands in WA Co and removed his family there shortly thereafter.  In 1813, this younger Levi Jones died in WA Co., and subsequently (about 1817) the Captain Thomas Buck went to WA Co., to live with his widowed daughter and help her to raise her children.  She then died and he remarried there, in 1819, to Eleanor Lindsay.  That document specifically refers to him as “Capt. Thomas Buck”.  In the 1820 census, he was still there in Strabane Twp of WA Co., PA, but his new wife had probably died, as he was alone with some younger children (his grandchildren, who by now were mostly grown).  Six months later, he returned to Bedford Co., to make his will and list Abigal, deceased wife of Levi Jones, as his daughter, so we know that he is the same Captain Thomas Buck (b. 1740) who we have been tracking over the years in Hopewell Twp of Bedford Co.

Okay, what then does all this mean?  It means that the Thomas Buck who was born in 1740, was the “Captain Thomas Buck” who had the children listed in column three above.  This is NOT the same family, nor does it contain the same names of children as the Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott that both JGG shows in his temple records (column 2 above) or those we have found belonging to the same couple as shown in column 1 above.  However, JGG’s family (column 2) is close enough to ours (column 1) to be considered the same family.  There are children listed in one that are not listed in the other (omissions) but nothing that would disqualify these from being the same.  Indeed, if we add the two daughters, (and we suspected they had some): Massa Buck Ferguson and Elizabeth Buck Castway in column 1 then our lists are even closer. 

Well then, if JGG and we are in reasonable agreement as to most of the children who belong in the family of Thomas and Elizabeth, then the main remaining issue is to address the dates he uses. 


If I were in his situation, and back in his day, when getting the ordinances completed was the primary thing and no one knew whether specific dates could ever be found anyway, then I would begin "estimating" dates the best way I could (and indeed, that is exactly what we still do very often--I have done that in our “Chapter 1” with John Buck Sr. in coming up with his "assumed" birth year of 1742, based upon subtracting about 20-25 years from the estimated birth year of his son, John Jr.)  Anyway, I would start (and I suspect that JGG started) with Elizabeth Buck Garlick, who's birthdate was specific and one of the few known dates—2 May 1795.  Then, knowing that she had siblings he would have put that family together the best he could.  He seems to have known a specific birth date for the youngest daughter, Mary (1800) and known that the oldest son, Thomas, was born about 1789 (and I think he is correct on both counts), but then not knowing the birthdates of David and Susannah, and it appears a “Richard”, he just kind of poked them into the blank gaps that were left over... after all, they needed to fit in there someplace. 


Once having set up this family, I suspect he figured backwards as to when the prior generation would have been born and estimated that David (he knew their names and had the Endowment records to back him up on that) was born "abt 1760" and his wife, Catherine Cashman about the same general time frame.  He subsequently amended this date to "1765" but this too is an estimation.  These dates seemed to work fairly well for David's family, and he knew that his parents were Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott. 

So, the next task would be to estimate their years of birth.  Unless a person finds some document to make them think otherwise, they often just go back about 20-25 years to assume the parents were born "about" then.  If JGG knew little of any other siblings, then that thinking would take him back to about 1740 for Thomas & Elizabeth.  I know how this is done as I have done the same thing when searching out some of my wife's ancestors.  You have to make some kind of assumptions that give you a general time frame in which to work/search, and you stick with that until you find something else that changes your opinion--like sure proof of their births, or of those of older children that would require you moving the parents back to an earlier age.  But, if JGG didn't have any documentation of the births of older siblings, then he would never feel a need to move his assumed years of birth back any earlier than 1740.


What siblings of David, did JGG know about?  From the Endowment House records, he knew David had a sister, Elizabeth (Mrs. Castway) who may well have been younger than David.  He knew he had brothers, Ichabod, Thomas and Jonathan, but didn't know where to poke those in, so they were given birth years of "abt 1763" for Thomas, “abt” 1767 for Ichabod, and "abt 1774" for Jonathan.


There is NO documentation for the births of Thomas Buck (assumed to have been born "abt 1740" or for his wife, Elizabeth Scott, assumed to have been born "abt 1745".)  As near as we can tell from JGG's record, all of these were his best guesses at what might have been their ages and nothing more available to support his supposition.  

We have already reminded ourselves that any time we find a conflict between an original source record and a secondary record, unless we have some other document to substantiate the secondary source, we must always give preference to the original source documents.  That is the case with JGG's family group records, from which the TIB records were made, (and later amended with more assumptions).  These are not original source documents and do not carry the same weight as those we have found from the time period researched in Bedford County documents.  Additionally, it is obvious from his frequent use of “Abt” that he did not have source documents but was estimating these years. It is also obvious, from the changes on many items on these TIB cards (and on the One Family Group Records) that he was unsure and remained in a modifying mode for these dates. 

I believe that Joseph G. Garlick (and subsequently “JGG”) from his mother (and from the Endowment House records) had a listing of the names for his ancestors and some uncles and aunts, but did not have any dates and those had to be estimated by him the best he could, without any documentation at all.  Finding his record to be an undocumented, secondary source record, I feel we cannot rely on his estimated dates without some additional outside corroboration.  I feel that his dates are inconsistent with the information developed from all of the other documents that we have found and we must rely most heavily upon those.


Still, I'm delighted that we (you) found the TIB cards submitted by JGG.  As mentioned, this gave me a chance to challenge our previous thoughts and assumptions.  Let me say right here that I am NOT trying to be critical of JGG.  I very much appreciate his work, but we cannot afford to swallow it whole just because it was submitted to the temple before ours was.  We must always remind ourselves that his work (One Family Group Records, and/or TIB Cards) is NOT "original source documents", but instead is an accumulation of bits and pieces that were gathered from elsewhere and put down in writing on a single sheet. 

Back in JGG's day, he didn't have access to the Internet and all of the tools we have today.  Original research would have been difficult for someone from Utah to try to access old PA records.  I believe that JGG was not so much a professional genealogist as he was a sincere and dedicated temple worker.  I suspect that he recognized that someone had done portions of the temple work for his family, but that only included baptisms and sealings of spouses and left a lot of work unfinished (e. g. endowments and sealings of children to parents).  In his TIB Cards & OFGRs he cites, as his only source, the "Endowment House Transcripts", and I suspect that may be the case, augmented perhaps by family lore heard from his father.  I think his primary motivation was to get the other ordinances completed.  But, in the meantime, since the 1872 days when Elizabeth did her work in the Endowment House, the Temple now required him to come up with some dates in order to identify these people.  (We know Elizabeth didn't have to do that but nowadays we do, and it is a good thing as in this very family we are still left wishing that she had provided those dates for her family.)  As a result, he did what you and I would do in his situation in order to get our family’s work done and the ordinances performed, that is, he estimated the dates the best he could and submitted the names to have their work completed.

I can’t prove my assumptions, but this is what I believe happened and how I account for the obviously incorrect dates he used.  I do not believe that our Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott were so young as to be born anywhere around 1740.  I think their oldest son was Captain Thomas Buck, who was born in 1740.  If that is the case, then the specific marriage date of 1738, given in the Endowment House records, makes sense for this couple… it “fits” into the puzzle very nicely, as we would expect it to. 

There are some very helpful items presented to us by JGG in these TIB Cards.  Remember that we do not conflict with very many of the names he presents, and even less with the names and relationships that Elizabeth Buck Garlick provided in the actual Endowment House ordinances.  We primarily disagree only with JGG’s estimated dates of their births.  His helpful data though includes:

1.  The name of a daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Buck—namely, Elizabeth Buck Castway.  (Today I checked in the PA census records and was not able to find a “Castway” listed there, or any name close to that that made me feel comfortable.  I suspect that this couple may have moved away from PA shortly after their marriage, but do not know that at this point.)

2.  The name of another daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth—Massa Buck Ferguson.  We have found some Fergusons in Providence Twp of Bedford Co., and feel more can be found for this family with additional research.  JGG gave us a great lead here.

3.  The name of another ancestor, the father of Thomas Buck (the husband of Elizabeth Scott) and that name is yet another “Thomas Buck”.  This is not documented either, but from hints in our own research we had suspected that the next generation was probably from another Thomas Buck.  (Although, note that the name of this father, Thomas Buck, was typed in later, by someone who added this to the original card and we don’t know who that was, or where they obtained their information.)

4.  Jonathan Buck specifically listed as a son of Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott.  We were certain this was the case but have not seen any original source document to prove it. Neither is this one, but it is supportive of our belief and our own findings.  Again, we are reminded of the phantom history of Putnam Co., TN (which we have not been able to obtain yet) which supposedly lists Jonathan’s father as a “Thomas Buck”.   The difference between JGG’s birthdate for Jonathan and the one we show is that our sources (Jonathan’s own family Bible) clearly states that his birthday was 12 Jan. 1755.  We don’t know of any other Jonathan in this time frame who could have been a son of our Thomas and Elizabeth.  The conflict though, is that JGG shows him as being their son but with a birth year of “abt. 1774” which is 19 years later than his actual birth.  Here again though, we do have access today to a document that JGG would not have had.  Jonathan Buck purchased his own family Bible and began keeping his family’s genealogy.  Sadly he began only with himself, and we wish he would have recorded more of his ancestry.  But he specifically says that he was born on 12 Jan. 1755.  This is not only many years ahead of JGG’s very rough estimate, but it also is almost certain confirmation that his parents were not born in 1740 & 1745, or his mother would only have been about 10 years old at his birth, and his father only 15.  This just didn’t happen that way at all.  Our Thomas and Elizabeth were certainly older than that and were born well before 1740.  Additionally, this Jonathan was not the oldest in the family.  All indications (see all of the original source documents presented in this chapter above) are that he had older brothers including: Captain Thomas (b. 1740); John Sr. (b. abt 1742); and Joseph (uncertain of his birth year, but we know of “a” Joseph Buck born in 1749 who could fit into this family perfectly.  Regardless of whether that man was the Joseph who was definitely a brother to this Jonathan (and to our David) we believe that our Joseph would have been born sometime between 1745-1755, which is still very close to the time frame we have estimated of 1749.

Appendix G:                     David Garlick and Elizabeth Buck

(found on the Internet, author unknown)

David Garlick was born 12 October 1780 in Lebanon, Hunterdon, New Jersey.  His parents were Stephen Garlick and Eve Young.  The Garlick (Gerlock) and Young  (Jung) families were originally from the Palatinate area of Germany, both families

migrating about 1710, first settling in New York in the Hudson River Pitch and Tar project, and later on the Stone Arabia Patten of land in the Mohawk Valley in New York.  From there they moved to New Jersey and then to Providence, Bedford, Pennsylvania, about 1785.  Stephen, David’s father, was listed on the tax list of 1779 and 1784 in Hunterdon, New Jersey, and on the census of 1790, 1800, and 1820 in Providence,  Bedford, Pennsylvania.  It was here that David met and married Elizabeth Buck, on 1 October 1816.  Elizabeth was born and raised in Providence, born 2 May 1795 to David Buck and Catherine Mary Cashman (Kirschmann).  The Buck family came from England about 1650 and settled in Connecticut.  The Kirschmann family came from Germany about 1750.  They were both in Providence district as early as 1771, when the county was made from Cumberland.

David and Elizabeth had seven children, all born in Providence, Pennsylvania.  Hannnah was born 1 Jun 1818, Susannah was born 11 Jun 1820, Mary Jane born 12 Aug 1822, Talitha Cumi born 22 Sep 1824, Joseph Gaston born 2 May 1827, Sarah Elizabeth born 12 Oct 1830 and Eliza Grace born 13 Apr 1835.

David owned a sawmill and lumber plantation.  He also enjoyed hunting.  His grandson, John Albert Strong, tells of stories of David as a great hunter going into the Pennsylvania mountains and returning with as many as twenty bear skins in one trip.

The family was also a very religious people and were members of the Cambelite faith.  They believed in faith, repentance and baptism by immersion.  One morning Elizabeth told of a dream she had the night before. In her dream two strangers had come to visit them.  Over their heads was a large motto bearing the words “Truth will prevail”. In her dream she heard a voice say, “These are true messengers of God.  Hear and obey”.  This dream disturbed the Garlick family considerably.  Then about a week later, two Mormon missionaries came to their home.  Elizabeth recognized the missionaries as the two men she had seen in her dream.  The missionaries, Elder William Howard Bosley and John Fleming Wakefield, taught the family about the new Mormon religion and Elizabeth and her three oldest daughters, Hannah, Susannah, and Mary Jane, were baptized 5 October 1837 along with sixteen other converts of the Cambelite faith.  Elizabeth often bore testimony during the years that followed, ”I knew it was the true gospel, and I never could deny it.”  One of the missionaries, John Wakefield, returned after his mission, and on 5 August 1838, married Susannah.

As soon as it was known that the Garlick women had joined the Mormon church, persecution began.  The family lost their social standing in the community. They lost the love and respect of their friends and family.  Although David had not yet accepted the Mormon faith, he could not bear seeing his family exiled and decided the best thing to do was to move where they could be gathered with the Saints in Zion.  For two years David tried to sell his property which consisted of a good farm, a large tract of timber land, a saw mill, lumber yard, cattle and horses with barns and sheds, and a comfortable home.

It was estimated his property was worth more than $15,000. David finally auctioned most of his holdings at a great sacrifice for only $500, leaving some property jointly owned with his two brothers, Jacob and Adam, in the hands of a nephew, Absolum Garlick.  As soon as it was learned that David was making preparations to move, a group of hostile, anti-Mormons began making plans to mob the Garlicks, and other Mormons in the area.  A friend of David’s heard the threats of the linching mob and notified David of their plans.  With the help of the friend provisions and other needed essentials were loaded into two wagons, and with their horse teams the Garlick family bid farewell to their Pennsylvania home on 11 October 1839, which they saw burned to the ground before they were out of sight.  After going some distance, the Garlick family joined another group of Mormon converts on their way to join the main body of saints. David made acquaintance with a man who returned with David to providence to claim some money that David had in the bank there.  But the bank had been notified by the mob not to let David have any of his money.  The cashier having been a friend of David’s most of his life, helped David get his money from the bank, by dating his check back a few days before the order from the mob came in to the bank.

Except for short periods of stopovers, their westward trek was to stretch over the

next fourteen years.  They expected to join the saints in Independence, Missouri, but after crossing the states of Ohio and Indiana and entering Illinois, they learned that the mobs had driven the Mormons out of Missouri, and they were now gathering at Commerce (Nauvoo), Illinois.  This shortened the journey somewhat, but even then it was 30 November before the Garlick family arrived in Nauvoo.  With winter coming on and every shelter filled to capacity, David Garlick and his family were most grateful to be permitted to move into an old blacksmith shop, where two families had previously lived. This crude dwelling had no floor, door or chimney.  As there were no rocks, David made a chimney of sod, and a door of clapboard.  The winter of 1839-40 was extremely cold. The Mississippi River froze over and David was able to haul logs from the Iowa side of the river across the ice.  David built a two room cabin for the family to move into by March 1840.

Talitha and Sarah were baptized into the LDS church in 1840.  The exact date and place that Sarah was baptized is not known, but records show that Talitha was baptized 7 April 1840, in the Mississippi River by the Prophet Joseph Smith.  David was also baptized in 1841 in Nauvoo becoming a member of the Nauvoo 2nd ward. Hannah and Talitha both belonged to the first Relief Society when it was organized in Nauvoo.  In April 1841 David and Elizabeth’s youngest child, Eliza, died at the age of six years.

The years that the church was flourishing in Nauvoo, there was a desperate need for money to build the temple and pay for the land.  David loaned the greatest portion of his money to the church, which was never paid back.  From hard work and worry David began to loose his health, became ill and died 4 November 1843, and was buried in Nauvoo, at the age of 63.

After David’s death, Hyrum Smith came to the Garlick home and asked Elizabeth to let her son Joseph Gaston, now a lad of sixteen, come to his home and work for a wage.  Through this opportunity Joseph came to know Hyrum and the prophet personally.  While working for Hyrum, Joseph was baptized into the Mormon church and Hyrum confirmed him.  This now made the family complete.

The Garlick family became close friends with the Smith family.  Both Hannah and Talitha also worked in the home of Hyrum Smith.  Hannah was with them at the time Joseph Fielding was born.  She tells of one day she was dressing him and pinned the band around his stomach.  The prophet came in and said it was much too tight and adjusted the band to a more comfortable fit.

The Garlick family heard the Prophet’s last sermon before the martyrdom, and on

that memorable day of 27 June 1844, they viewed the bodies of the Prophet Joseph and his brother, Hyrum when they were brought from Carthage to Nauvoo after the


On 12 March 1845, Talitha married William Howard Avery, and 10 September 1845, Mary Jane married Isaac Burres Hatch, who one year later took Hannah as a second wife.  The years following the martyrdom were difficult for the saints.  The Garlicks saved and prepared for the trip westward.  In the fall of 1847 the family was in Council Bluffs, Iowa.  The winter of 1847 was a bad year for cholera, and Talitha’s husband was among the many saints who died there.  The family left the Bluffs at different times to continue their westward journey.  Isaac Burres with his wife Mary Jane and son George Andrew, came to Utah in 1847.  He apparently left Hannah and her two little sons in Council Bluffs.  Joseph Gaston was in Salt Lake in 1850, by the Census, listed with William and Lewis Hatch, brothers of Isaac Burres.  Talitha, with her small son, came a year later in 1851.  From a history written by her daughter we learn that Sarah drove an ox team across the plains in 1852.  Her mother Elizabeth, and sister Hannah and her two children, probably came with her.  Susannah’s husband John Fleming died in 1856, leaving Susannah with seven children.  She later came to Utah where she remarried Reese Davis and had one more child.  Hannah remarried David Cluff, and then Moses Trader Shepherd, and settled in Springville.  Talitha remarried Elam Cheney also settling in Springville.  After the death of Isaac Burres Mary Jane remarried Francis Delbert Lawrence, then Isaac’s brother William Hatch.  Joseph married Amy Amelia Jones and later Mary Jane Gallispi.  Sarah married Benjamin Richmond, then William Strong and finally William Kerswell.  Sarah and her family settled near Springville, close by her mother.  Elizabeth often visited Sarah and her family.  They each had a spinning wheel and they spun yards of wool yarn, silk and flax. Elizabeth spun and wove flax and made a bed tick.  Years later the tick was made into towels and were handed down to the grandchildren.  Elizabeth spent her last years in Sarah’s home.  She died there 5 August 1887, and was buried in the Springville Cemetery in the Kerswell family plot, Block 35 plot 1.  Her daughter Sarah was placed beside her mother in 1904.  A new head stone was place on the graves about 1997.

Appendix H:                                             Ancestral photos

Talitha Cumi Garlick Avery Cheney was one of my ancestors, a Latter-day Saint and tough pioneer woman who was baptized in Nauvoo, Illinois and later crossed the plains with the Mormons who fled religious persecution. She later married in Salt Lake City, becoming one of several polygamist wives of Elam Cheney. She later helped settle a rugged part of Wyoming, now Wilson, Wyoming, near Jackson Hole.

The history below was written by Talitha Cumi Garlick with additions by Stella May Cheney Robinson Eggleston, a great-granddaughter. I obtained the text in the unpublished Lindsay/Petersen & Cheney/Nethercott Family Histories, compiled and edited by my mother, Mary Lyon Miles Lindsay, Salt Lake City, Utah, April 1999 (a copy is in my possession). I understand that a published source for her autobiography is "Cheney, Talitha Cumi Garlick Avery, [Autobiography]," in Our Pioneer Heritage, 20 vols. [1958-77], 15:120, which is available in a number of Utah libraries and other libraries as well.

Foreword by Stella Eggleston:

My great-grandmother, Talitha Cumi Garlick, was born September 22, 1824, at Providence, Bedford Co., Pennsylvania. Her father, David Garlick, was born September 27, 1779, in New Jersey. He died November 14, 1843, in Nauvoo, Illinois. Her mother, Elizabeth Buck, was born May 2, 1795, in Bedford Co., Pennsylvania. David Garlick and Elizabeth Buck were married October 1, 1816, in Pennsylvania. Elizabeth Buck died September 5, 1888, in Springville, Utah. To this couple seven children were born, six daughters and one son. Talitha Cumi was the fourth child. The children were Hannah, Susannah, Mary Jane, Sarah, Elizabeth, Talitha Cumi and Joseph Gaston Garlick.

The following is much of the original history written by my great-grandmother, with additions by my cousin, Areatha Cheney Sherman, a granddaughter of Talitha Cumi Garlick, and myself, Stella May Cheney Robinson Eggleston, a great-granddaughter.

The Life of Talitha Cumi Garlick

I was born September 22, 1824, in Providence, Bedford Co., Pennsylvania. Father and Mother belonged to the Christian Church and were very religious and firm in their belief. The Christian Church believed in baptism by immersion, and that was all that was required, they thought. Then, they believed, they belonged to the True Church of Christ. But in 1837, there were two Elders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints who came to our neighborhood and preached the true Gospel and Mother and three of my sisters joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They were baptized in October, 1837.

I was thirteen years old then. Previous to these Elders coming, my Mother dreamed she saw two strange preachers and heard a voice say, "These are the true messengers of God, hear and obey." I heard my Mother tell my Father of this in the morning after she dreamed this.

The next week, William Baisley and John Wakefield, two Mormon Elders, as they were called, came in that neighborhood and preached. As soon as Mother saw them she said, "They were the men she saw in her dream and she knew they had the true Gospel." She and my three sisters joined the Church. In two weeks after hearing them preach there were twenty baptized in that place. Then the mob spirit arose and all was confusion. Our friends and relatives all turned against us.

We stayed there for two years after that. Mobs and persecutions prevailed. Father said he was going to leave if he had to go without selling. No one would buy. He sold his large farm for $500, and it was worth $5,000, he often said.

We took the family and headed for Missouri. This was October in 1839. When we got to Illinois we heard the Saints were all driven out of Missouri, so we went to Commerce, which was afterwards called Nauvoo. When we got there it was November 30, too late to build a house. There was none we could get, every house was full.

There was a blacksmith shop that two families had just moved out of, so Father got that. It was the best we could do. It had no floor, no door or chimney. Father made a sod chimney, because there was no rock. He made a clapboard door and we lived in that all winter. Father hauled house logs across the Mississippi River on the ice and built a house with two rooms with hewn logs, and moved in it in March.

Brother Joseph Smith, the Prophet, had gone to the city of Washington to lay the grievances of the Gospel before the President of the United States. We did not see him or hear him preach until he got back. I had said, "I would not get baptized until I saw the Prophet and heard him preach." I kept my word. I was baptized April 7, 1840, in the Mississippi River by Joseph Smith the Prophet.

In 1842, the Prophet organized the first Relief Society in this dispensation. There was no society [organization] for the young people at that time, so I, as did all the other girls who wished to and were worthy, joined the Relief Society. Joseph Smith came often to our meetings and would talk to us and give us such good counsel.

I heard him preach the last time he ever preached, just before he and his brother, Hyrum, went to Carthage. I saw them after they were killed and brought back to Nauvoo. It was the most sorrowful sight I have ever seen - to see such good and great men, and one of them the greatest Prophet, or as great as ever lived on this earth, killed in cold blood by a mob. Those were times long to be remembered.

In 1845, my mother and her family moved across the Mississippi River to Iowa. My Father died in 1843. An old friend of ours said we could "better" by moving across the Mississippi because my brother was old enough to farm.

I was in Nauvoo when Sidney Rigdon came from the East after Brothers Joseph and Hyrum were killed, to take the lead of the Church. There were none of the Twelve Apostles at home, but Brothers Taylor and Richards. Brother Taylor was badly wounded. Sidney Rigdon thought he would have everything his own way, but he found that he was mistaken. He called a meeting. He said the Church was old enough to choose a guardian, it being 14 years since it was organized.

Brother Brigham Young and the other apostles arrived in Nauvoo in time to be present at the meeting. Brother Brigham Young said, "The keys of the Kingdom are with the Twelve Apostles. They are the ones to lead the people." He looked just like Brother Joseph and spoke like him. Surely the mantle of Brother Joseph has fallen on him. I never had a doubt. I knew Brother Brigham was the man to fill the place of our beloved Prophet. I knew that Brother Joseph Smith was a true Prophet of God and was the mouthpiece of God to the people, and that Brigham Young was his lawful successor. He was a man of God.

After my mother moved to Iowa in the fall of 1844, in the following year, March 2, 1845, I was married to a good young man by the name of William Howard Avery. [They were both 21 at the time.]. He owned a nice farm four miles north of Mount Rose, a beautiful place, but in 1846 the Saints had to leave Nauvoo and go to the mountains. We sold our place for a song, you might say, and got ready to go with the first company of Saints on the 4th of March, 1846.

My first child was born at Sugar Creek. My husband got a small cabin for us to stay in for A month. On April 6, we started and caught up with the first company at Mt. Pisgah. We traveled with the first company to the Bluffs and camped on Misquito Creek. Here the Battalion was chosen and sent to Mexico on the 15th of July, 1846.

We then crossed the Missouri River and camped on the west side [Winter Quarters] as it was too late to go any further. The camp stopped and made preparations for winter. We stayed there all winter. In the spring of 1847, Brigham Young with a band of pioneers started West to find a home for the Latter-day Saints west of the Rocky Mountains. After Brother Brigham Young started, we crossed back to the east side of the Missouri River and my husband and his brothers went to find work. We had been living one year on what we brought with us, so we had to stay to get a fresh supply before we could go on to the mountains. My husband sent for me. Charles Avery was hauling flour to Winter Quarters from where my husband got work and he got Charles to take me down to where he was. This was July, 1847.

On September 3 my husband took very sick. We were where we could get no Elders to administer to him. We did not believe in doctors, but he got so bad we gave consent for a doctor, but we could not save him. He had cholera. He died on September 13, 1847, in Missouri, Atcheson County, 12 miles south of Linden. My son William was then 18 months old. I was left among strangers, not one of my folks within 500 miles. My husband's youngest brother was with us or I don't know what I would have done. My little boy was sick too. He took sick the same day his father died. I would not give him any of the doctor's medicine. He was sick for two months, but the Lord spared his life for a comfort to me. On the 15th day of September, my brother-in-law took me to the Bluffs, Kainsville, to Charles Avery, my husband's oldest brother. On the 15th of October, my mother and three sisters came so I went and stayed with my mother until she started for the valley in 1852. I stayed another year with my brother-in-law, John F. Wakefield. He wanted me to stay with my sister, Susan, for she felt so bad to have us all go and she had to stay. John thought we could get ready by another year, but he was disappointed, for another year he was no nearer ready than he was the year before. So in 1853, I started to the Valley with Brother Jacob Bigler's folks. We started the 10th of June, in Daniel Miller's Company and got to Salt Lake Valley the 10th of September, 1853. The grasshoppers destroyed all the crops. When I went to the valley, I went as far south as Springfield. My mother and brother and three of my sisters were there. The people had moved into a fort. The Indians were troublesome. I lived with my brother. February 13, 1854, I was married to Elam Cheney at Springfield, Utah. [Elam Cheney had five wives. Talitha was his third wife. They were the parents of four children, three sons and one daughter.]

On January 18, 1855, Olive Mehitable Cheney was born. The same year the grasshoppers took all of our crops, again making bread scarce. After the grasshoppers took Mr. Cheney's wheat, he planted corn on the same ground and raised enough for our bread. We did not do without. We were very saving of our bread. We divided with those that had none and the Lord blessed us and we did not suffer.

March 8, 1857, David Cheney was born. June 16, 1859, Selar Cheney was born [Webmaster's note: Selar is my direct ancestor]. In March, 1860, I moved to a ranch eight miles south of Santaquin. Mr. Cheney had bought a ranch and wished me and my family to go there. My oldest son, William Avery, was 14 years old and old enough to take care of the stock and the sheep. In March 15, 1862, Thomas Edward Cheney was born. In March, 1863, I with my family moved to Sanpete County. Mr. Cheney thought it would be best for some of his family to live on a farm, so we did.

In 1864, Sunday School was organized in Fairview, Sanpete County. I was called by our Bishop to teach, which place I filled. I taught the Theological class. In 1866, the Indians got mad and went on the war path and went to killing men and driving off stock. My oldest son, William Avery, was on picket guard with two others and on the 16th of April was wounded. Thomas Jones was killed the same time. Three weeks after that we had to vacate Fairview and go to Mt. Pleasant and stay until fall.

In 1867, there was a Relief Society organized in Fairview and I was chosen as a teacher, and in 1868, was chosen secretary of the Grain Committee. In 1878, I was chosen for President of the Primary, which place I filled until my boys were called to settle in Castle Valley. In 1879, I resigned from all offices and went with my children to Castle Valley. In 1881, there was a Sunday School organized in Huntington in Castle Valley and I was chosen as teacher in the Theological class. In 1882, I was blessed and set apart for President of the Relief Society. We lived in Huntington, Emery County, from 1879 until 1893, when we sold our place and came north.

I was President of the Relief Society for eleven years, then we left Huntington and I was honorably released from all offices and came north with my children. My son, Selar Cheney, had come north with his father-in-law, Sylvester Wilson, and they had crossed the Big Mountain [Teton Pass] and Snake River in 1889 or 1890 and settled in a place called Jackson's Hole in Wyoming. They homesteaded about seven miles south of Jackson. In 1892, David Cheney and Albert Smith [son and grandson] came to see the country. They liked Idaho best.

In 1893, my son-in-law, Anthony Humble, and his son-in-law, Albert Smith, sold their places and started for the north country the 15th of May.  David and Thomas were not ready so I came north with my son-in-law.  His wife was the only daughter I ever had and I wanted to come when she came.  I rode all the way in my buggy.  I did not get tired.  We were all thinking of going over the mountains where Selar lived.  When we got to the mountains, we had to camp three weeks waiting for the snow to melt before we could cross the mountains.  I was 69 years old and I walked over the Big Mountain, for it was too steep, no one could ride over it.  Selar met us the next day and took us across the River in a scift.  The water was so high we could not cross the wagons for three weeks more.  It was July 4 1893, when we got to Jackson.  [They all lived with Grandfather for a while.]  Humbles moved into their new house two days before Scott Humble was bom, December, 1893.  In the meantime, other members of the family settled in Idaho.

David and Thomas Cheney built a one room cabin for their mother at Victor, Idaho, near the town of Thomas Cheney.  The Humble family lived in Victor, Idaho.

Further Comments by Stella May Cheney Robinson Eggleston:
Great-grandmother was a good housekeeper. She was a small woman, but very spry. She was an excellent entertainer and could tell a story, sing and tap dance. She wrote many poems for special occasions, among them one for the last day of school at South Park dedication meeting house in Victor, Idaho in 1897. She composed and sang a song about her "Juab Home." She had the honor of writing a special poem for her grandson's missionary farewell. He was the first missionary sent from Victor, Idaho, and served in the French Mission.

Although she lived alone, she always made soda biscuits. My Grandfather, Selar Cheney, told me his Mother was named for a name in the Bible, and this name only appears once, St. Mark 5:41 "...and He (Jesus) took the Damsel by the hand and said unto her, "Talitha Cumi," which interpreted is, "Damsel, I say unto thee arise."

Jeff Lindsay's Postscript
The issue of the momentary "transfiguration" or "transformation" of Brigham Young's appearance into that of Joseph Smith is disputed by a number of people who argue that the story was invented later by the Church to prop up Brigham Young's succession to the office of President of the Church. It is true that not everyone there claimed to have seen this, and that most of the written statements about the event were crafted after people got to Utah. But I am not sure that the problems in documentation thwart the fact that some witnesses did experience what appeared to be an impressive indication that Brigham Young was to be the new leader. Talitha Cumi Garlick's statement must be considered as one of those witnesses.

It makes a difference to me that this was one of my ancestors. Heber J. Grant was especially touched by the testimony of his own mother on this issue.  In the October 1898 General Conference, he said:

There are those that know not God. There are those that think the Latter-day Saints are a mistaken people, that they are deluded and that they have no faith in the supernatural; but I say here today that I know the mantle of Joseph Smith fell upon the Prophet Brigham Young. I know it, and I am willing to meet the testimony that I bear. How do I know it? I know it because of my mother, a more honest woman than whom never lived, a more devoted Latter-day Saint can not be found; because she and scores of others have told me that they saw the Prophet Brigham Young when he spoke with the voice of Joseph Smith; when he looked like the prophet Joseph; and I know that these people are honest; and in addition to this I know by the inspiration of God to me that Brigham Young was a Prophet of God.

A collection of numerous other statements from witnesses to this (disputed) miraculous event is found in Lynne W. Jorgensen and BYU Studies Staff, "The Mantle of the Prophet Joseph Passes to Brother Brigham: A Collective Spiritual Witness," BYU Studies, Vol. 36, No. 4, 1996-6, pp. 125-204. The abstract is available online, and the article can be downloaded for $2. The abstract follows:

On August 8, 1844, six weeks after the Prophet Joseph Smith's martyrdom, a meeting of the Saints was held in Nauvoo, Illinois. Brigham Young, President of the Quorum of the Twelve, and several other Apostles had just returned from missions. The purpose of the meeting was to determine by vote who had the right and responsibility to lead the Church--Sidney Rigdon, First Counselor in the First Presidency, or the Quorum of the Twelve with Brigham Young at their head. In the course of the two meetings held that day, many in attendance received a divine witness that Brigham Young was to be the next leader: some Saints specifically state that as Brigham Young addressed the congregation he sounded and appeared remarkably like Joseph Smith, others simply say that the "mantle of Joseph" or "of the prophets" rested on Brigham Young, and others state that they were given a witness "by the spirit" that Brigham was to lead the Church.

In my opinion, examination of the other testimonies and surrounding evidences rules out the possibility that this was an urban legend that many folks adopted. Something happened on that day - and I am inclined to apply Alma 56:47 to this situation, affirming the faith of the "sons of Helaman," the stripling Lamanite warriors who said, "We do not doubt our mothers [or great-grandmothers] knew it."

Appendix J:

Letters of Jonathan (John) Buck to his Aunt Elizabeth Buck Garlick and cousin Sarah Garlick Kerswell.  This Jonathan (the author of these letters) was the son of Elizabeth’s younger brother, David Buck, Jr.


(First part missing) dated March 6, 1875 from John Buck, Bedford Co., PA to Elizabeth Buck and Sarah Garlick Kerswell

...well. You ask how it come that I did not come to see you when stated. The reason is that the man that was to buy my farm, backed out and I had made sale on the 27th day of March and sold everything to come and then after that man backed out I was to sell to another man and his wife died just two days before the time was for us to start and that knocked me all wrong all that I had and the balance of the company before I could rent again.

It just seemed as if I was not to go and I bought up again and went to farming. And since the times have got so hard in the West I am glad I did not go, but I will come and see you all yet if all goes right but I can't say when.

Money here is very dull, grain is very plenty. Flour is $5.50 per barell. Corn 75¢ per bushel. Pork very low. We have the coldest winter here that has been for 35 years, river ice 4 ½ feet thick.

Aunt Mary Buck is well, Catharine too, neather one of them lives with me now since last spring. Catharine lives with Assa Williams, Aunt lives with Jacob Foor, no other change in our family. Been very healthy this winter.

Yours truly, write to me again and tell me all the news and I will give you all the news then. To all my cousins and Aunt. John Buck.


March the 6th, 1875 (letter from Delilah Clark inserted in letter from John Buck to Elizabeth Garlick)

Dear Aunt and Cousins;

It is with pleasure that I drop you a few lines to inform you we are all well at the present time and hope and trust these few lines may find you the same.

I must tell you where we live, we live near Gapsvill and I thought I would write a few lines to you all. I am a stranger to you I suppose. I am Catharine Garlick's oldest daughter, she was married to Wesley Clark. There is just seven children living and two dead.

I want you to be sure and write just as soon as this comes to hand.

Mr. John Buck told me I could write a piece in his letter and I am very thankful to write with him as we have not your address. I am paying Mr. Buck a visit now, so must bring these few lines to a close by asking you to please write soon as this reaches you.

From yours truly, Della E. Clark to Mrs. Sarah Kerswell. When you write, direct it to Gapsville, Bedford Co. Pa or to Mother or to Della E. Clark or to Mother, Catharine Clark.

London (Madison Co.), Ohio, Sept 10, 1877 (Letter from John Buck to Sarah Kerswell and Elizabeth Garlick)

Dear Cousin and Aunt;

I seat myself to say I received a letter from you some months ago. I would have answered before now but was still thinking of being closer to you before this time but am about fixing to move back again to the old home place in Pennsylvania. My wife has been sick nearly ever since we have been in Ohio and is not sadis ficte [sic satisfied] to go any farther west and she now has the agure [ague] and two of my children has got it and I have concluded to take them where the Agure seldom comes any more, that is in Pennsylvania where they was born. The rest of my family is all well and I hope these few lines find you all well.

Times is very dull here now all though there is plenty of everything but fruit, there is none at tale, only what is shipped here. Hay is only three dollars per ton, wheat $1.00 per bushel, rye 45¢ per bushel, potatoes 30¢ per bushel, butter 10¢ lb. & 12¢, eggs 8 & 10¢ a dozen. Work by the day 50 to 75¢ and none hardly to do at that. Corn up here, the folks that has corn is just pulling the ears off leaving the foder so that stops the work from off the farms hands so there is no work to do.

I have two teams hauling and can only get $5.00 per day for both and you aught to get that for one.

I can't tell how Aunt or Catharine is gitting along for I have not had a letter from either one for five months or more, I can't tell why it is as I have written to both of them and got no answer.

We intend starting back 16th of November. I am going through on the railroad, so if you write so I can get it direct it to Everett, Bedford County, PA. To John Buck in care of Mary Buck.

One of my boys married a girl here and they have gone to keeping house here, so if my letter does not come to hand in time he can lift it and remail.  His name is William L. Buck, he married a girl by name of Any (Annie?) Rit Chenny. She is a millener and mantel maker and still works at her trade. William is clerking in a grocery store and drives a delivery wagon for the store part of his time.  He gets $28.00 per month and boards himself.

The crops have been very good here this year.

I guess I must close by asking you to write soon.

Yours truly, John Buck

Tell Aunt we all send our love and to all "Good By," It is raining the ground is covered like a river.

Columbus (Franklin Co.), Ohio, March 17, 1895                   (a letter from John Buck to Sarah Kerswell)

Dear Cousins;

I received your very welcome letter a few days ago. It found me well and my family is well as are my family. The boys and girls and their families is well.

I am boarding, I don't keep house anymore and I received your picture and I thought I had thanked you for it in my letter long ago, if not I am very much obliged to you for it.

I did not see Dasey Garlick when I was East, she was away from home the day I went to see her and I had so many places t go I did not get around again. I sen Mrs. Walis (Elizabeth Garlick Wallace) and Evey Price (Eve Garlick Price). She is married to another man by the name of Joseph Weaverling. Maybe you can mind old Peter Weaverling that used to I've east of my father, it is one of his boys she married, sister to Daisy Garlick.

I seen Telitha (Catharine) Garlick two but only to speak to her as met her on the road one day she is married to Wesley Clark, one of Elias Clark's boys. If you would wish to write to her direct it to Telitha Clark Bedford County, PA. Mench Post Office in care of her boy (William) Clark Sr.

Well you spoke of the cold winter we have had, the most snow and cold weather I ever saw in Ohio. No deep snow, but snowed for two months right along. It is nice here now.

Time is dull here but every thing plenty and very cheap. I have had work all winter in a wholesale house where it is heated with gas, as warm as wood care. The thermometer was at one time 14 degrees below zero, that was perty cold, but they have had two feet of snow on the level back at our old home place this winter.

It appears that there is going to be plenty work to do this summer, lots of large buildings to go up this summer.

I will give you a few of the market prices; Hay $10.00 per ton; Corn 50¢ per bushel; Flour potatoes 65¢ per bushel; Beef 5¢ to 10¢ per lb.; Pork 8¢ to 10¢ per lb.; Butter 23¢ lb.; Large eggs 12 1/2¢ dozen; No price for days wages, get what ever you can. Muslin 3 to 5¢ per yd. and calico 3 to 6¢ per yd. Sugar 21¢ lb. And coffee 18 to 23¢ lb.

Well I must close for this time, hoping to hear from you soon.

Direct to John Buck, Columbus, Ohio. Galloway Ave No. 522.

Appendix K

Letter from Lionel Nebeker to Gordon Bates, 2-25-2013.

Gordon, thanks for sending me the document shown below.  This document is NOT an actual transcript of what is found in the “Nauvoo Baptism Records of the Dead, Book D32, as mentioned below, but rather is someone’s compilation of erroneous date that they either assembled, or estimated, or just purely made poor guesses about, based upon a list of those persons, for whom Elizabeth Buck Garlick (EBG) did work, as a proxy, in Nauvoo in 1841.  The actual record for that work, as you and I have both previously reviewed, is simply a list of EBG’s relatives, for whom she was baptized, and then it gives her relationship to that individual.  So, to summarize, the only comments below that actually are contained in the Nauvoo Baptismal Records are the items in “bold” type that gives the name of the individual and the Proxy Relationship to the Deceased

The fact that a reference to that source is shown toward the end of each individual’s entry, seems to infer (I’m sure it was unintentionally) that everything shown for that individual has come from that one single source.  That is totally incorrect.  EBG never gave any dates for any of her proxy work, and hardly gave any information other than her relationship to a person of that name.  The rest of the information given below seems to be an accumulation of someone’s ideas of who that person may have been—and they were incorrect more often than not. 

Before I get into correcting the mis-information below, there are a few items that are too large to be inserted in the individual’s information.  First, most of this information (other than the Proxy relationships) did not even come from EBG.  We don’t know who wrote this up, nor when, but it was sometime after the death of EBG, as it has her death date included, although, they got that wrong too, by one year.  

Secondly, I don’t know if this document is the source of so many genealogical errors in our family’s records, or if they are merely the victim of someone who previously created poor records, but they certainly perpetuated them and now many people are stumbling because of the many mistakes in this document.  As I show corrections below, my words, edits, will be added in RED so that you will know what came from me (Lionel Nebeker – 2-25-2013) and what did not.  I’m also going to assign red numbers to each entry (not a part of your original document) just so that we can more easily discuss one of the entries if we choose to.

Next, let me point out a couple of errors that have sent researchers off down a totally wrong path.  One of these is to refer to EBG’s father as “David Buck, Jr.”  There is no reason for this.  There was a David Buck, Jr, but that was EBG’s brother, not her father.  While this little error may not seem like much, it has led a lot of people to assume that if David Buck (EBG’s father) was a “Jr.” then his father must also have been a “David Buck.”  They then have entered his name as “David Thomas Buck” or “Thomas David Buck” which has added more confusion for this family.  It is clear from the information provided by EBG below that she says her father was “David Buck” and her grandfather was “Thomas Buck”.  If her grandfather was Thomas Buck, then it surely makes little sense to refer to her father as “David Jr.” 

Another item that needs to be corrected is her Great grandfather, Thomas Scott (the father of Elizabeth Scott Buck—EBG’s grandmother) – See persons # 5 (&6) below. Note that entry #6 is merely a duplication of #5.)   We know from the Barbour Collection of the Glastonbury, CT vital records, that our “Thomas Scott” first shows up in Glastonbury, CT for his marriage, on 3 June 1708, to Marcy Goodale.  It then provides a list of each of their children.  In every case his name is consistently shown as “Thomas Scott”.  At no time is it ever listed as “Shadrack Thomas Scott” or even “S. Thomas Scott.”  But, someone has chosen to connect our “Thomas Scott” with another man by the name of “Shadrack Scott” or “Shadrack Thomas Scott” who is alleged to be the son of an Edward Scott, born in either New Haven, or Guildford, CT.  There is absolutely no evidence found to connect these two men.  But the information below again perpetuates this error.  This did not come from EBG.  She never once mentioned any name for her Great grandfather, and in those days it was rare for people to even know who their ancestors were that far removed.

I don’t know where folks got the idea that EBG’s mother’s name was Catharine Mary Cashman.  There is no original source document that I’m aware of that ever called her “Mary”.  She was born as “Catherine Kirschman” (of the Kirschenmann family from Pfalzgrafenweiler, Wuerttemberg, German) and over the course of her life, many of her family changed the spelling of their surname to “Cashman.”  But, there should not be any reference to “Mary.” 

There is no “Montgomer County” in Pennsylvania.  There is a small town by that name just a bit NE of the center of the state but our Bucks did not live there.  They were located in Bedford County, which is west of the south-central part of the state, on the Maryland State line.  For the most part, our line lived in Providence Township (which became “West Providence” township) of Bedford Co., PA.

Now, with those few introductory remarks, I’ll insert my comments below and try to keep them brief.  In most cases I will not try to give all the sources for my comments, but they can be found on my web-site ( in greater detail in the article titled “The Thomas Buck, Sr. Family of Bedford Co., PA.”

In each of these entries, it would be best to first skip to the bottom to see what the relationship is for EBG to that person and then it is easier to establish the correct information.  EBG did state her relationship so we can rely on that information in most cases, but little else. The first entry is for EBG herself, as a proxy, and not as someone for whom work is being done.  She would not have stated her own death date during her life so it is clear that someone else entered the information about her, other than her birth date and place. 

I will only take the time to edit the “Buck” records below, and will not try to address the Garlick entries, but the same kinds of comments and errors are applicable there as well. 

Buck Nauvoo Baptismal Document:

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead. Book D32; Family Search, Ancestral File.


Gender: Female

Surname: Garlic (Garlick)

Given Name: Elizabeth

Maiden Name: Buck

Birth date: 3 May 1795 2 May 1795 (her birth date is shown differently in different docs., and it is not totally clear which is correct.  In my records I am using 2 May.)

Birth place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Bedford, Pennsylvania

Father: Buck, David Jr.

Mother: Cashman, Catherine (Mary) 

Spouse: Garlick (Garlic, Gerlach), David Gaston

Marriage date: 1 October 1816

Marriage place: Bedford County, Pennsylvania

Spouce: Bumgardner  (No.  Her mother’s first marriage was to Adam Bumgardner, but EBG was only married once—to David Garlick) 

Death date: 5 September 1887 1888

Death place: Springville, Utah, Utah, United States  (She was buried in Springville, but died at the home of her daughter, in Spanish Fork, Utah, Utah.)

Comments: Elizabeth was baptized in 1837

2. Deceased: Jacob Baumgarner   (Bumgardner)

Gender: Male

Surname: Baumgarner  (Bumgarner)

Given name: Jacob

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Half-Sister of Jacob Baumgarner

Date of proxy baptixm: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A193

(Other than the spelling of his name, this entry is correct and is really the only kind of information that actually appears in the Nauvoo Baptismal record cited.  This amount of information is all that should be shown for each of the entries below.)

3. Deceased: Catharine Buck

Gender: Female

Surname: Buck

Given name: Catharine (Mary)

Maiden name: Cashman

Birth date: 1767   1752

Birth place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania  Holland

Father: Cashman, John Martin  (Johann Martin, or Hans Martin)

Mother: Schwartz, Agnes

Spouse: David Buck Jr.

Marriage date: 1781  (probably about 1789)

Marriage place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania  (Probably in Washington Co., Maryland)   

Spouse: Baumgardner, John     (Bumgardner, Adam)

Marriage date: about 1797      (11 Oct 1779 Hagerstown, Washington, Maryland) 

Death date: 25 February 1816    (She died sometime after this date.  This is the date of David Buck, Sr.’s will and he lists her as his surviving spouse at that time.  No further record of her has been found after this date.)

Death place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Bedford, Pennsylvania

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the daughter of Catherine Kirschman/Cashman Buck

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A189; Family Search, Ancestral File

4. Deceased: David Buck

Gender: Male

Surname: Buck

Given name: David

Birth date: 1760 (1765)     (probably about 1752-53)   

Birth place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Bedford, Pennsylvania

Father: Buck, Thomas Jr.   (don’t know his father’s name and should not use Jr.)

Mother: Scott, Elizabeth

Spouse: Cashman, Catherine (Mary)

Marriage date: about 1781   (probably about 1789)  

Marriage place: Pennsylvania   (unknown, but probably in Washington Co. MD.  That is where both Catherine Cashman, and her parents, were living at that time.)

Death date: 25 February 1816  (Will date)

Death place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Bedford, Pennsylvania

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Daughter of David Buck.

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book 9A; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

5. Deceased: Elizabeth Buck

Gender: Female

Surname: Buck

Given Maiden name: Scott

Birth date: 1742       30 July 1717

Birth Place: Bedford County, Pennsylvania       Glastonbury, Hartford, CT

Father: Scott, Shadrack Thomas

Mother: Elizabeth    Goodale, Marcy

Spouse: Buck, Thomas

Marriage date: about 1760       4 May 1738

Marriage Place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania    Glastonbury, CT

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Granddaughter of Elizabeth Buck.

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book 9A; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

6. Deceased: Elizabeth Buck     (This person is a duplicate of #5 above)

Gender: Female

Surname: Buck

Given name: Elizabeth

Maiden name: Scott

Birth date: 1742

Birth place: Bedford County, Pennsylvania

Father: Scott, Shadrack Thomas

Mother: Elizabeth

Spouse: Buck Thomas

Marriage date: about 1760

Marriage place: of Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Granddaughter of Elizabeth Buck

Date of Proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A192; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

7. Deceased: Elizabeth Buck

Gender: Female

Surname: Buck

Given name: Elizabeth

Birth date: 1772    (unknown but I estimate it to be about 1746 – could have been 1746-1760)

Birth place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania     (unknown, but the family moved to Bedford Co., PA in 1775 and she was born before they that date.)

Father: Buck, Thomas Jr.

Mother: Scott, Elizabeth

Spouse; Castway (Costnay)

Proxy’s relationships to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Niece of Elizabeth Buck

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A191; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

8. Deceased: Ichabod Buck

Gender: Male

Surname: Buck

Given name: Ichabod

Birth date: 1767    (unknown.  I estimate it to be about 1758; but it could have been anytime between 1745-1760) 

Birth place: of  Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania      (unknown but before the family moved to Bedford Co., PA in 1775.) 

Father: Buck, Thomas Jr.

Mother: Scott, Elizabeth

Spouse: Blue, Eliza     (No known wife, but certainly not Elizabeth Blue, who was the wife of Ichabod Buck’s nephew, Thomas Buck, who was the brother of EBG.) 

Marriage date: 1787

Marriage place:  of  Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Niece of Ichabod Buck.

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

9. Deceased: Margaret Buck

Gender: Female

Surname: Buck    (This is correct, but this was Margaret’s married name.  She was the wife of EBG’s uncle, Captain Thomas Buck.  She was the widow of Mr. Richard Long of Hopewell Twp, Bedford Co., PA.  EBG knew her well.)   

Given name: Margaret

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Niece of Margaret Buck

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A191; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

10. Deceased: Mercy Buck

Gender: Female

Surname: Buck

Given name: Mercy (Massa)

Birth date: 1770    (unknown but probably about 1744.  She was old enough to have a grown son by 1790.)  

Birth place: of  Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania   (Born prior to the family’s move to Bedford Co., PA in 1775.) 

Father: Buck, Thomas Jr.

Mother: Scott, Elizabeth

Spouse: Ferguson, Thomas

Marriage date: 1790     (unknown but she had a son, Benjamin, prior to 1775.)  

Marriage place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania  (???) 

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Niece of Mercy Buck.

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A191; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

11. Deceased: Thomas Buck

Gender: Male

Surname: Buck

Given name: Thomas

Birth date: 6 September 1712     (unknown date.  There was a “Thomas Buck” born on the date shown here, but there is no documentable evidence that that was the same man as our Thomas Buck.  This is just a convenient claim without basis.) 

Birth place: Middletown, Midlesex, Pennsylvania    (Probably in Connecticut) 

Father: Buck, David Jr.    (Unknown father)   

Mother: Cashman, Catherine (Mary)   (Mother is also unknown, but it was certainly not Catherine Cashman, who was the wife of this man’s son, David.)  

Spouse: Scott, Elizabeth

Marriage date: about 1760      (4 May 1738 in Glastonbury, CT)    

Marriage place: of Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania

Death place: Bedford County, Pennsylvania    (probably correct, but no docs.) 

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Granddaughter of Thomas Buck

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A193; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

12. Deceased: Thomas Buck

Gender: Male

Surname: Buck

Given name: Thomas   (This is the man we typically refer to as the “Captain”.  He was also the husband of the Mrs, Margaret Long listed above as an Aunt of EBG.) 

Birth date: 1763       (1740)

Birth place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania       (Place of birth is unknown, perhaps someplace in CT, but certainly before the family moved to Bedford Co., PA in 1775.)  

Father: Buck, Thomas Jr.

Mother: Scott, Elizabeth

Spouse: Blue, Elizabeth   (He had three known wives, but none of them was this Elizabeth Blue. She was the wife of his nephew of the same name, Thomas Buck, the son of David Buck, Sr.  Elizabeth Blue was a sister-in-law to EBG, not an Aunt by marriage.  This Thomas (the “Captain”) had a first wife, whose name is unknown, and who was the mother of his children.  Then, he married Mrs. Margaret Long, the widow of Richard Long, and lastly, he married Eleanor Lindsey.)

Marriage date: 1783     (unknown but his first marriage was probably about 1760)

Marriage place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania   (unknown) 

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Niece of Thomas Buck.

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A191; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

13. Deceased: Agnes Cashman

Gender: Female

Surname: Cashman

Given name: Agnes

Maiden name: Schwartz

Birth date: 1736    (27 April 1732)  

Birth place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania     (Goettelfingen, Freudenstadt, Wuerttemberg, Germany.) 

Spouse: Cashman (Kirschman), John (Johan, Hans) Martin

Marriage date: about 1757    (about 1751 in Wuerttemberg – perhaps common law)

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Granddaughter of Agnes Cashman

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A207; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

14. Deceased: Elizabeth Cashman

Gender: Female

Surname: Cashman

Given name: Elizabeth

Birth date: about 1769    (14 Sept 1775)

Birth place: Saxony, Germny      (York Co., PA)  

Father: Cashman, John Martin     (Johann Martin, or Hans Martin) 

Mother: Schwartz, Agnes

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Niece of Elizabeth Cashman

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A208; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

15. Deceased: George Cashman

Gender: Male

Surname: Cashman

Given name: George

Birth date: about 1763    (23 May 1756) 

Birth place: Saxony, Germany     (Ontelaune, Berks Co., PA)   

Father: Cashman, John Martin    (Johann Martin or Hans Martin)

Mother: Schwartz, Agnes

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Niece of George Cashman

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A208; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

16. Deceased: John Martin Cashman

Gender: Male

Surname: Cashman

Given name: John    (Johann or Hans)  

Middle name: Martin

Birth date: 1738    (5 Feb 1732)

Birth place: Germany   (Pfalzgrafenweiler, Freudenstadt, Wuerttemberg, Germany)

Father: Cashman, Abraham   (Johann “Hanss” Martin Kirschenmann)   

Spouse: Schwartz, Agnes

Marriage date: about 1757    (about 1751)  

Death place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania   (1804 in Bedford Co., VA) 

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Granddaughter of John Martin Cashman

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A207; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

17. Deceased: Mercy Cooper

Gender: Female

Surname: Cooper    (This is a married name.  Her maiden name was Ferguson, and she was the daughter of Mercy/Marsa/ Massa Buck Ferguson.)  

Given name: Mercy

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Cousin of Mercy Cooper

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A208; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

18. Deceased: Benjamin Ferguson

Gender: Male

Surname: Ferguson

Given name: Benjamin

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Cousin of Benjamin Ferguson

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A53 A55; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

19. Deceased: Mercy Ferguson

Gender: Female

Surname: Ferguson     (This is correct but it was her married name.  Her maiden name was Buck, a sister of David Buck, Sr.  She married Thomas Ferguson and had three known children (two of which were listed immediately above this entry): Benjamin Ferguson, Thomas Ferguson & Mercy (or Massa) Ferguson Cooper.) 

Given name: Mercy (Massa)

Birth date: 1770   (unknown but probably about 1744.  She was old enough to have a son, Benjamin by about 1765.  Her birth was certainly long before 1770.)  

Birth place: of Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania    (Place of birth is not known but it occurred sometime prior to the family moving into Bedford, PA) 

Father: Buck, Thomas

Mother: Scott, Elizabeth

Spouse: Ferguson, Thomas

Marriage: about 1790     (unknown but probably about 1764) 

Marriage place: of Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania   (unknown) 

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Niece of Mercy Ferguson

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A53 A55; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

20. Deceased: Thomas Ferguson

Gender: Male

Surname: Ferguson

Given name: Thomas

Birth date: 1770    (unknown but probably about 1770.)

Birth place: of Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania     (unknown) 

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Cousin of Thomas Ferguson

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A53 A55; FamilySeach, Ancestral File.

21. Deceased: Abigail Jones

Gender: Female

Surname: Jones   (This was her married name, she was the wife of Levi Jones and they were married in Bedford Co., PA, but then move to Washington Co., PA where both died young.  Her maiden name was “Buck” and she was the daughter of Captain Thomas Buck, and a granddaughter of the original Thomas Buck and Elizabeth Scott.) 

Given name: Abigail

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Cousin of Abigail Jones

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A85.

22. Deceased: Barbary May

Gender: Female

Surname: May    (Very interesting entry.  We are not exactly sure where to place this person.  The proxy info below says that she was a sister of EBG.  I believe that should say that she was a “half-sister”.  We know that EBG had a half-sister by the name of Barbara “Barbary” Bumgardner, and I think this is that woman.  She probably married a Mr. May, but we have not yet been able to find anything else for this woman other than this entry.)  

Given name: Barbary

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Sister of Barbary May

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A201.

23. Deceased: Elizabeth Poor

Gender: Female

Surname: Poor   (I don’t know where this person fits into the family.  “Poor” was probably a married name for this young woman.  We do know that EBG had a niece who married an Isaac Foor (or Foore) but that woman’s name was Sarah Buck Foore, not Elizabeth.  At this time we cannot account for this person.) 

Given name: Elizabeth

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: Elizabeth Garlic was the Cousin of Elizabeth Poor

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A128.


Gender: Male

Surname: Garlick

Given name: David

Middle name: Gaston

Birth date: 27 September 1780

Birth place: Lebanon, Hunterdon, New Jersey

Father: Garlick, Steven

Mother: Young, Eve (Eva)

Spouse: Buck, Elizabeth

Marriage date: 1 October 1816

Marriage place: Bedford County, Pennsylvania

Death date: 14 November 1845 (1843)

Death place: Nauvoo, Hancock, Illinois

Comments: David was baptized in 1841 in Nauvoo

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead; Family Search, Ancestral File; Black,

Membership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: 1830-1848, 17:840-42;

Nauvoo City Tax Lists, 1841-1844; Nauvoo Federal Census, 1842

25. Deceased: Eve Garlick

Gender: Female

Surname: Garlick

Given name: Eve

Maiden name: Young

Birth date: 1760

Birth Place: Canajoharie (Stone, Arabia), Montgomery, New York

Birth place variation: Florida, Orange, New York

Father: Young, George

Mother: Saltz, Elizabeth

Spouse: Garlick, Steven

Marriage date: 9 November 1778

Marriage place: Germantown, Columbia, New York

Death date: 1830

Death place: Florida, Orange, New York

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: David Garlick was the Son of Eve Garlick

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A65; FamilySearch, Ancestral File.

26. Deceased: Stephen Garlick

Gender: Male

Surname: Garlick

Given name: Stephen

Birth date: 1750 (1756)

Birth place: Bedford, Bedford, Pennsylvania

Birth place variations: Stone Arabia, Montgomery, New York

Father: Garlick, John Hans

Spouse: Young, Eve

Marriage date: 9 November 1778

Marriage place: Germantown, Columbia, New York

Death date: 28 September 1826

Death place: Providence Square, Montgomery, Pennsylvania

Proxy’s relationship to deceased: David Garlick was the Son of Stephen Garlick

Date of proxy baptism: 1841

Source: Nauvoo Baptismal Records of the Dead, Book A66; FamilySearch, Ancestral File.

Appendix I:

The Life of Talitha Cumi Garlick,
Mormon Pioneer and Woman of Faith